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Rock_Chick

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I've been talking to a old beekeeper toady 40 years of keeping bees,
I'd seen some old boxes in his garden, I asked hime what he was doing, he keeps his bees in a field out his back, he had the old combs which had stores in and he wanted to melt down, so not wanting to waste the stores he leaves them in his front garden i 24-48 hours all cleaned out and his other bees have got the benefit of the honey.
What are your thoughts on this ?
my fist thoughts where spreading of disease !!!
 
It's considered bad practice in the UK but seems to be done by quite a few.
I know beekeepers that stack wet supers on bricks to be cleaned after extraction.
It is a way of spreading disease as any bees in the area will come.
Open feeding is also not done here but is popular in America.

You have to ask where the old comes come from and if the colonies failed what from.


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I've been talking to a old beekeeper toady 40 years of keeping bees,
I'd seen some old boxes in his garden, I asked hime what he was doing, he keeps his bees in a field out his back, he had the old combs which had stores in !!!

When guys clean their combs after extraction, they spread diseases as well.

Old comb does not generate diseases.

.if stores are in old combs, bees have no acces to combs. Otherwise they would not have stores many days.

. Perhaps he catches swarms too, but do not want to admit it.
 
I've been talking to a old beekeeper toady 40 years of keeping bees,
I'd seen some old boxes in his garden, I asked hime what he was doing, he keeps his bees in a field out his back, he had the old combs which had stores in and he wanted to melt down, so not wanting to waste the stores he leaves them in his front garden i 24-48 hours all cleaned out and his other bees have got the benefit of the honey.
What are your thoughts on this ?
my fist thoughts where spreading of disease !!!

Man's an idiot - surefired way of spreading disease, encouraging robbing and being a damned nuisance to neighbours.
 
I've been talking to a old beekeeper toady 40 years of keeping bees,
I'd seen some old boxes in his garden, I asked hime what he was doing, he keeps his bees in a field out his back, he had the old combs which had stores in and he wanted to melt down, so not wanting to waste the stores he leaves them in his front garden i 24-48 hours all cleaned out and his other bees have got the benefit of the honey.
What are your thoughts on this ?
my fist thoughts where spreading of disease !!!

Tell hime melting down old comb is a waste of time - very poor wax yield. Save them as fire lighters
Best not to get angry on this forum - between them Admin and Moderator monitor language 60/60/24/7/365. Try a gentle euphemism e.g. 'fi5t'
 
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I've been talking to a old beekeeper toady 40 years of keeping bees,
I'd seen some old boxes in his garden, I asked hime what he was doing, he keeps his bees in a field out his back, he had the old combs which had stores in and he wanted to melt down, so not wanting to waste the stores he leaves them in his front garden i 24-48 hours all cleaned out and his other bees have got the benefit of the honey.
What are your thoughts on this ?
my fist thoughts where spreading of disease !!!

I'm not impressed by the length of time someone has kept bees. I am impressed when someone keeps bees sensibly and using logical thought methods.
His other bees, everyone elses bees within range, feral bees, wasps, hornets, flies and even a few moths will be helping themselves and intermingling any diseases and parasites.
 
so, I read that without spotting the mistake, maybe I'm lysdexic !

That is very common feature among beekeepers. So called normal guy.

Some know things from very beginning by Lord's mercy.

Layer's advice: If you are guilty, however do not admit it.

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I can understand his logic for not wanting to waste any stores, but its bad methods that get local beekeepers with guys around, like him into trouble.
Ive seen on tv and tube in USA that they open feed anything and I think no wonder they in such a state with CCD.
SO how would you recover any honey in say pollen clogged frames or old frames.
I'd just burn them myself.
today I've taken out 10 frames from DB hives that are all pollen clogged,(replaced with foundation) but all round the edges are capped honey, ( for some reason they been just filling top Brood boxes with pollen )
 
Have never had trouble getting them to rob out combs when placed above a barely open crown board. Usually only takes a few days. Unlike Amari, I put all my old comb into solar wax melter, and just leave it. It is no work and the last time I swapped it for fresh I think I got 60 wired deep foundation and 50 shallow, costing me , I think, about £25 . Well worth it. The wax melter is home made, just a sheet of double glazing rested on top of a polystyrene fish box.
 
today I've taken out 10 frames from DB hives that are all pollen clogged,(replaced with foundation) but all round the edges are capped honey, ( for some reason they been just filling top Brood boxes with pollen )

Why remove it in a DB ? They will need it soon.
 
Yep, left mine with lower broods full of pollen last autumn. All gone come March with healthy strong colonies.
 
No pollen = no brood.


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Why remove it in a DB ? They will need it soon.

Don't panic people, plenty left in, they've had no where left to lay, so took out old frames, from various hives. not all one hive. for some reason all top brood boxes have been filled with pollen.
 
I can understand his logic for not wanting to waste any stores, but its bad methods that get local beekeepers with guys around, like him into trouble.
Ive seen on tv and tube in USA that they open feed anything and I think no wonder they in such a state with CCD.
SO how would you recover any honey in say pollen clogged frames or old frames.
I'd just burn them myself.
today I've taken out 10 frames from DB hives that are all pollen clogged,(replaced with foundation) but all round the edges are capped honey, ( for some reason they been just filling top Brood boxes with pollen )

Pollen is very valuable. Put pollen frames between brood frames and bees eate off pollen.

Main reason to CCD is varroa, not old combs.

Bees habit is store pollen next to brood.

I keep 3 langstroth brood boxes. This time of summer lowest box uses to be full of pollen. Then bees rear Winter brood with that pollen store, when nature does not give pollen any more.
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If you do not arrange space for pollen stores in brood boxes, bees store pollen in supers. IT must be somewhere.
 
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