Certan

[HelenHP16]

Does anyone use certan to protect stored supers from wax moth? Thinking of trying it this year as I really don't like using acetic acid and don't have a spare freezer to put them in

Thanks

 

[citrus]

Does anyone use certan to protect stored supers from wax moth? Thinking of trying it this year as I really don't like using acetic acid and don't have a spare freezer to put them in

Thanks

https://beekeepingforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=38065

discussed here that it looks a winner ... I am trying the italian version cheaper version of certan

 

[Roola]

Does anyone use certan to protect stored supers from wax moth? Thinking of trying it this year as I really don't like using acetic acid and don't have a spare freezer to put them in

Thanks

Hi. I've used it every year for the last 4 years and never seen a single wax moth larvae, tunnel or silk in the supers the next spring. Some supers have even been used for brood at some point but were all clear. It's not super cheap but better than losing 25% of next year's crop on comb building. Easy to apply with a pump action sprayer too.

 

[fatshark]

It's not super cheap ...

How much less than 2p/frame does it need to be to qualify as 'super cheap'?

500g of DiPEL on eBay costs about £32

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

store them wet.

 

[REDWOOD]

 

[oliver90owner]

There was some concern of the active ingredients in certan, so I have avoided it for several years. It may have been cleared, healthwise, but I don’t need it +|so don’t use it.

Ethanoic acid is very corrosive, as is sulphur burning. I use sulphur sticks in a home-made can burner and that works well. These two kill more than just wax moth, so have other advantages at rather less cost than certan.

 

[Hivemaker.]

How much less than 2p/frame does it need to be to qualify as 'super cheap'?

2p for 200 frames.

 

[Roola]

How much less than 2p/frame does it need to be to qualify as 'super cheap'?

500g of DiPEL on eBay costs about £32

Fair point... I bought a litre bottle this year from beekeeping supplies at £96 which seemed like a big outlay in one pop but was more than enough to treat and have some left for next year.... It's more it seems a lot in one go

 

[fatshark]

2p for 200 frames.

Ha! Those must be those tiny little frames you use in the South West

I suspect it would work at 0.1% (i.e. 2p/20 frames) but so rarely see wax moth that I can't meaningfully test it.

 

[Millet]

I have never had any problems with wax moth but if i ever do could i use this... i bought one for the greenhouse years ago to control mildew and white fly on the tomatoes...

http://www.hotboxworld.com/products/hotbox-sulfume/8/cat

 

[Swarm]

I can't find specifics about application, other than spraying each frame. It doesn't say whether they need to be dry, for example. Not sure if there is more detail on the bottle or leaflet.

 

[BILL.HEARD]

store them wet.

 

[oliver90owner]

I have never had any problems with wax moth but if i ever do could i use this... i bought one for the greenhouse years ago to control mildew and white fly on the tomatoes...

http://www.hotboxworld.com/products/hotbox-sulfume/8/cat

Somehow, I am doubting elemental sulphur is effective against waxmoth larvae.

 

[Millet]

Somehow, I am doubting elemental sulphur is effective against waxmoth larvae.

I have no idea that is why i was asking.. i do not know what elemental sulpher is but when i bought this hotbox it was supplied with a 2kg bag of sulpher

 

[charlievictorbravo]

What is the process after the honey is spun out, Bill, and does it still work if the bees have stored a small amount of pollen in the super?

CVB

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

What is the process after the honey is spun out, Bill, and does it still work if the bees have stored a small amount of pollen in the super?

CVB

Seal up boxes so they are bee proof (either strapped between blank boards or in plastic bags) stack outside but sheltered from rain.
Yes - by the spring the pollen mites will have sorted most of it.