Bee poop on neighbours cars.

[idg]

She is moaning about needing to wash her car twice a week so I don’t think she is going to accept a couple of car washes. Honey isn’t going to solve anything.
The land is mine but it’s not my home so my car isn’t parked ther as much.
In reality, I have 11 hives there so arguing that it might be a feral colony is a bit lightweight. Is it from my bees? Yes. (Not that I have admitted that to her)
The problem is I have nowhere easy to site them. One option is pushing them closer to a football field which could have worse consequences.
I really don’t want to be forced into wrapping up over this.

 

[coffindodger]

Oliver90s first point is right - maybe the problem has gone and was a cleansing flight period; certainly worth checking with her in between your visits to the apiary. She might not mind an extra wash now and again if she understands that it is not continuing throughout the year (did she complain last year?)
Apart from the fact that it is simply good and civilised behaviour to try and come to some arrangement, it is sensible to see the outcome if the argument escalates. I have seen a situation where a beekeeper didn't talk to a neighbour who had a problem with his bees in her house; he simply wrote that they were wild animals and he could not be required to control where they flew. She was terrified of bees and drenched the house in insecticide

 

[enrico]

I can't believe we are even discussing this. My neighbour has crows nests in his tree which he is happy to leave there. The birds hit my car every day with their poo but I wouldn't dream of laying the blame on his doorstep.
it is what insects etc do. Just ignore it. No judge In this country would uphold a complaint like that.

 

[Bakerbee]

New car or not her complaint is such a 1st world problem! How precious some in our society are about their material things. Im really trying to balance the arguments for and against but still have this overriding feeling of irritation at the ladies trivial complaint. We constantly have neighbours cats crap in our vegetable patch.( we have dogs and pick up their poop and keep them on a lead unlike cat owners) We can identify the cats to owners, these deposits actually are a plausible health risk to us. Do we complain? Of course not its part of being tolerant with our neighbours. If your hives were causing actual harm or potential harm to people there would be cause for concern. Bee poo on a material object is not a justifiable reason for moving them in my opinion.

 

[nantmoel]

Just like to say the cars around where I keep my bees get covered, they are in some woodland but they seem to fly over the cars to 'bump' their poo! I have never had a complaint.

 

[For want of a better word]

I can't believe we are even discussing this. My neighbour has crows nests in his tree which he is happy to leave there. The birds hit my car every day with their poo but I wouldn't dream of laying the blame on his doorstep.
it is what insects etc do. Just ignore it. No judge In this country would uphold a complaint like that.

Good neighbors..... all our other neighbors are friends ...and strangely enough none have much to do with Mr and Mrs Auto Glym!!

With the rate of theft of classic Land Rover Defenders I never leave it without the alarm on or doors unlocked..... bees are allowed to poo on it as much as they like!

All a storm in a tea cup?... bit Beefietit always likes to have a good old trill!!

 

[Swarm]

She is moaning about needing to wash her car twice a week so I don’t think she is going to accept a couple of car washes. Honey isn’t going to solve anything.
The land is mine but it’s not my home so my car isn’t parked ther as much.
In reality, I have 11 hives there so arguing that it might be a feral colony is a bit lightweight. Is it from my bees? Yes. (Not that I have admitted that to her)
The problem is I have nowhere easy to site them. One option is pushing them closer to a football field which could have worse consequences.
I really don’t want to be forced into wrapping up over this.

Ignore her.

 

[MartinL]

Really depends on what current relationship you have with them and what you want it to be...

Your bees were there, (presumably sh!ting on most of her previous modes of transport) long before she chose to park her shiny new chariot in their flightpath.

Treat her with the contempt she deserves.!!

What form of complaint was it?
Perhaps you could (accidentally) spill some swarm attractant on the pavement, (or even the joint between the bumper & the body) where it would seep in & remain affective???

Start feeding the birds in your front garden the resulting affect will be greatly exaggerated from a few spots on the paintwork & more detrimental to her new (water-based) paintwork!
You can then offer to stop feeding the birds?

Is it a white car by any chance?

Suggest she buys a brown or orange one next time.

 

[blackcloud]

There was a pig farmer somewhere in Leicestershire I used to have to deal with who had a young couple move in nearby who soon began to complain to the local council about the smell.
They were asked what did they expect and the answer was that they didn't think would smell at weekends as well...

 

[thorn]

On the balance of probabilities it's your bees who are causing a nuisance. A nuisance is actionable. Were the matter to come before a judge, he'd find against you. That said, it would be unlikely to come before a judge. No solicitor would take on a claim involving such minor damage, unless it happened very frequently (and legal expense insurers were underwriting the claimant's costs).

But it's unlikely to be a frequent occurrence, so why be a bad neighbour. Fund a good clean, and give her some honey.

I'm always amazed by how many keyboard warriors on this forum encourage others to be bad neighbours.

 

[For want of a better word]

On the balance of probabilities it's your bees who are causing a nuisance. A nuisance is actionable. Were the matter to come before a judge, he'd find against you. That said, it would be unlikely to come before a judge. No solicitor would take on a claim involving such minor damage, unless it happened very frequently (and legal expense insurers were underwriting the claimant's costs).

But it's unlikely to be a frequent occurrence, so why be a bad neighbour. Fund a good clean, and give her some honey.

I'm always amazed by how many keyboard warriors on this forum encourage others to be bad neighbours.

Some people are too bitter to sweeten!

 

[thorn]

Some people are too bitter to sweeten!

So I see, from your first post in this thread.

 

[For want of a better word]

So I see, from your first post in this thread.

I seem to have a reputation for not treating fools gladly!!!

Chons da

 

[enrico]

On the balance of probabilities it's your bees who are causing a nuisance. A nuisance is actionable. Were the matter to come before a judge, he'd find against you. That said, it would be unlikely to come before a judge. No solicitor would take on a claim involving such minor damage, unless it happened very frequently (and legal expense insurers were underwriting the claimant's costs).

But it's unlikely to be a frequent occurrence, so why be a bad neighbour. Fund a good clean, and give her some honey.

I'm always amazed by how many keyboard warriors on this forum encourage others to be bad neighbours.

I disagree. The bees are doing what they do naturally, they know no different. It is not the keeper that is causing the nuisance. The fact the keeper is keeping bees is not a nuisance. The keeper has no ability to change what the bees do. The facts have to be proved before the balance of probabilities becomes an issue. The facts are not proved
Quod erat demonstrandum
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[thorn]

I disagree. The bees are doing what they do naturally, they know no different. It is not the keeper that is causing the nuisance. The fact the keeper is keeping bees is not a nuisance. The keeper has no ability to change what the bees do. The facts have to be proved before the balance of probabilities becomes an issue. The facts are not proved
Quod erat demonstrandum
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If you collect something on your land, and that something does nuisance, you are liable. The OP has collected bees on his land.

 

[Beefriendly]

The attitude of some to disown the actions of their own (or others) bees is equivalent to self denial.
Common decency out of the window.

 

[enrico]

So beefriendly, you live on an estate and keep bees...... Do you wash everyone's cars and give them free honey. Stupid idea. Bee poop is life!
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[Beefriendly]

Enrico, you shouldn't keep bees that close to other people on an estate.
I doubt it is the bee poop that will be causing problems ....more likely to be stung neighbours.

 

[For want of a better word]

If you collect something on your land, and that something does nuisance, you are liable. The OP has collected bees on his land.

No that is not quite true.
Law is quite clear on Public nuisance and there has to be a cohort of complaints properly logged over a specific time scale from a number of different people who have an interest.
Law on Private nuisance is different as this is specific to one individuals' complaint.

I studied Environmental Law as part of my degree at UoP.... advice is to get expert advice!

Bar stool lawyers can get you into some serious trouble

 

[Swarm]

It took me a good few minutes with boiling water to remove what a land gull dropped on my windscreen and bonnet this morning, far worse than any bee poo. People need to realise that stuff falls from the sky.