Aggressive 2nd Gen Buckfast

[Norton]

Sugarbush take note:
http://www.beesource.com/forums/showthread.php?259288-Bad-queen-experience-with-Buckfast

 

[Hebeegeebee]

" ....and still some beekeepers here insist on having the right to own whatever bee they want without consideration and respect for the native populations and the beekeepers that breed them...."

I have some sympathy with Phil 280. If we consider a farmer with a flock of (pure-bred) sheep and someone next-door drops his ram in the field for a few days, the farmer would rightly be a bit miffed.

 

[oliver90owner]

and someone next-door drops his ram in the field

Not such a very good analogy. A farmer should fence against his own animals; bees do not quite come into that category - they fly wherever they want within quite a wide range. There is also no control on feral colony genes.

Within reason those beekeepers actually have just as much right as any one else to keep the strain they prefer. That may upset a few, but that is the law, I believe.

Take Ron Hoskins and the umpteen hundred imported queens planted fairly locally to him as an example.

 

[victor meldrew]

Re-Queen with German bred Carnie Queens annually ?
VM

 

[Hivemaker.]

Of course beekeepers should have the choice of the strain/breed they prefer,and if they are that serious about the breeding/keeping to there own strain while sourounded by others,then they should use some method to control it like II.

 

[mbc]

Of course beekeepers should have the choice of the strain/breed they prefer,and if they are that serious about the breeding/keeping to there own strain while sourounded by others,then they should use some method to control it like II.

What about the Isle of Man, Ynys Mon ( Anglesey ) or some Scottish Isles or even areas where native bees predominate ( bits of Wales, Scotland and Ireland and even Derbyshire ) and efforts are being made to preserve them ? Is it right to potentially scupper the majority's good work in these areas just to preserve freedom of choice for a few( selfish IMO ! ) beekeepers ?

 

[Hivemaker.]

What about the Isle of Man, Ynys Mon ( Anglesey ) or some Scottish Isles or even areas where native bees predominate ( bits of Wales, Scotland and Ireland and even Derbyshire ) and efforts are being made to preserve them ? Is it right to potentially scupper the majority's good work in these areas just to preserve freedom of choice for a few( selfish IMO ! ) beekeepers ?

Perhaps not,but thats the world we live in,or at least in this country,freedom of choice,not much we can do about that is there. So even more reason why these dedicated people should be able to do II,or get it done for them.

 

[mbc]

Other countries such as Germany and Denmark have no problems with legislating to have control over bee movements in specified areas and presumably they live in the same world with simular rules concerning free trade and freedom of choice within the EU ?
Confusing ? maybe we live in a country governed by people in Westminster who do as much as possible to mollycodle bankers and money pushers arounders in the city while they dont give a stuff about country issues unless they bring in significant revenue or win/lose votes. Even our NBU buy in queens from other european countries who have breeding schemes supported by their governments. Bring on devolution I say ! It couldnt get any worse , could it ?

 

[Hivemaker.]

maybe we live in a country governed by people in Westminster who do as much as possible to mollycodle bankers and money pushers arounders in the city while they dont give a stuff about country issues unless they bring in significant revenue or win/lose votes.

That sounds about right.