What triggers production of winter bees?

[domino]

I've googled this and read various accounts of why & when bees start to make winter bees.

I'd be interested on the BKF folks views on this topic.

 

[enrico]

I had been keeping bees many years before I came onto this forum. Up until then I had never heard of .... Winter bees....
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[Erichalfbee]

I always thought that winter bees were made as a response to brood reduction in the autumn.
Nurse bees having fewer bees to use their vitellogen stores up on feeding deposited it in their bodies.
It’s probably nowhere near as simple as that or maybe it is

 

[john t]

I had been keeping bees many years before I came onto this forum. Up until then I had never heard of .... Winter bees....
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i too ,you never stop learning, this you tube video is the best i have come across, this guy is a commercial beekeeper explains things very well

look at 14.30 mins explains winter bees

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=386qWGnt_CU&index=1&list=PLyDBTwXKg92H0cI3vIBQ0XOYbPQua5PzL

very addictive watching, hope this helps

 

[Erichalfbee]

Have a look here
http://scientificbeekeeping.com/fat-bees-part-1/

 

[Finman]

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IT is well explained on internet how winterbees become.

- time table on bees genome that they react at local climate correctly
- shortening days
- lack of pollen
- winterbees will be those which do not feed larvae.

- when winterbees emerge, they need to eate lots of good pollen

- bees genetic ability to stand long Winter.

 

[For want of a better word]

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IT is well explained on internet how winterbees become.

- time table on bees genome that they react at local climate correctly
- shortening days
- lack of pollen
- winterbees will be those which do not feed larvae.

- when winterbees emerge, they need to eate lots of good pollen

- bees genetic ability to stand long Winter.

So Finnie.. my expert little snow fairie.... when do you get Spring bees???

Yeghes da

 

[victor meldrew]

When the Queen commences to lay in Spring !



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[For want of a better word]

When the Queen commences to lay in Spring !



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Perhaps they should write that fact into the books on beekeeping!

Chons da

 

[Finman]

.... when do you get Spring bees???

Yeghes da

In summer.

 

[Finman]

When the Queen commences to lay in Spring !



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About in February, when days lenghten
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[victor meldrew]

Yes indeed .
But will your answer satisfy our little corny pisky ?


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[For want of a better word]

Yes indeed .
But will your answer satisfy our little corny pisky ?


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I absolutely trust the Snow fairies answer.
Logical really... wish I had not asked the question!

Chons da

 

[Finman]

I absolutely trust the Snow fairies answer.
Logical really... wish I had not asked the question!

Chons da

Nothing over sea knowledge fits on British Isles.

 

[Finman]

I absolutely trust the Snow fairies answer.
Logical really... wish I had not asked the question!

Chons da

Why don't you look google before you ask?

 

[victor meldrew]

Agent provocateur hah Ha Ha Ha !


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[Finman]

Agent provocateur hah Ha Ha Ha !


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Ha ha ha. I am really tired to English "intellectual poking". All the time same pee poo..

 

[Finman]

Have a look here
http://scientificbeekeeping.com/fat-bees-part-1/

Fatbody acts as food store in every insect.

Vitellogen tissue formation is necessary in summer bees too.

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[beepig]

First winter bees spotted today. That means queen excluder can be removed and another year is done, bar the oxalic in December. Clever bees. The pong of ivy honey tells its own story

 

[Finman]

I absolutely trust the Snow fairies answer.


Chons da

Snow fairies do not belong to Finnish mytology. We have a snow man stories , you know that with carrot nose and with charcoal eyes.

Snow fairy has been in English mytology since Ice Ace. So, it is a native creature.

We have never thought that snow man can be right or wrong.