Wet supers above crownboard

[Show me the honey]

When people put extracted frames above the crownboard do the bees consume the leftover honey or do they take it down and store it?

 

[drex]

As long as they leave me nice clean and dry frames I don't know and I don't care. If worried about OSR seeding an Autumn crop, and it setting like concrete, it has never happened to me yet

 

[Millet]

I put the supers full of extracted frames back on the hives for them to refill..

 

[pargyle]

I put the supers full of extracted frames back on the hives for them to refill..

I think he means above the crown board with the feeder hole left open so that they clean out the supers prior to storage ? I don't bother- I store the supers wet .. less chance of wax moth and the bees clean the frames up in the spring when they go back on.

But the answer to the OP's original question is as per above ... who knows what they do with it ... but they do usually take it down.

 

[Millet]

I think he means above the crown board with the feeder hole left open so that they clean out the supers prior to storage ? I don't bother- I store the supers wet .. less chance of wax moth and the bees clean the frames up in the spring when they go back on.

But the answer to the OP's original question is as per above ... who knows what they do with it ... but they do usually take it down.

I know what he meant but this time of the year the supers go straight back on the hive..when the flow is over they get stacked wet on solid crown boards with another on top and ratchet strapped up..

 

[pargyle]

I know what he meant but this time of the year the supers go straight back on the hive..when the flow is over they get stacked wet on solid crown boards with another on top and ratchet strapped up..

But he said 'above the crown board'. - you answered a perfectly valid question with a perfectly valid reply ... just not the question the OP asked... perhaps you have the right qualities to become a politician?

 

[Show me the honey]

I think he means above the crown board with the feeder hole left open so that they clean out the supers prior to storage ? I don't bother- I store the supers wet .. less chance of wax moth and the bees clean the frames up in the spring when they go back on.

But the answer to the OP's original question is as per above ... who knows what they do with it ... but they do usually take it down.

Ye this is what I meant wasn’t asking for any reason was just pondering about bee stuff on my break from work!

 

[Show me the honey]

I know what he meant but this time of the year the supers go straight back on the hive..when the flow is over they get stacked wet on solid crown boards with another on top and ratchet strapped up..

Wasn’t a time of year question some people don’t store them wet and put them above to be ‘cleaned’ so was just wondering really

 

[Poly Hive]

Storing wet is best for two reasons one of which is above re the moth.

The other is that in spring the bees love the runny honey which it is then by reason of absorbing moisture from the atmosphere over the winter. So no messing with problems getting bees into the super.

PH

 

[Beefriendly]

Yorkshire wax moths must be quite unusual as I have had wet supers and brood frames attacked by them. Perhaps they started on dry bits first...

What I would like a foolproof solution to is pollen clogged frames and how to get the pollen removed. Storing outside wet the frames are covered in mould come spring and the bees don't seem to like dealing with this.
Currently trying to cultivate pollen mites and AKA Eric1/2B store in shed rather than outside, and also try some in poly bags in warmth of airing cupboard.
But if anyone has a solution to this problem I'd be very interested to hear.

 

[pargyle]

Yorkshire wax moths must be quite unusual as I have had wet supers and brood frames attacked by them. Perhaps they started on dry bits first...

What I would like a foolproof solution to is pollen clogged frames and how to get the pollen removed. Storing outside wet the frames are covered in mould come spring and the bees don't seem to like dealing with this.
Currently trying to cultivate pollen mites and AKA Eric1/2B store in shed rather than outside, and also try some in poly bags in warmth of airing cupboard.
But if anyone has a solution to this problem I'd be very interested to hear.

I've had brood frames with pollen in them go mouldy over winter ... scraped the worst off and the bees cleaned them up. Not had wet supers go mouldy to any great extent... stored in unheated and just about weather tight shed. I use the clear sheets that come as crown boards with Paynes hives.. put one in between each stored super ... if there does come a problem with one super ..be it decay or wax moth it is only going to affect one super and not the whole stack.

 

[Poly Hive]

I can honestly say I was taught be Mobus to store wet for the very reasons I stated. Never seen a problem with moths.

Must be special Welsh horrors eh?

PH

 

[Beefriendly]

Must be special Welsh horrors eh?

PH

Probably

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Never had real issues with waxmoth storing wet supers outside (But under cover) and the pollen mites sort out any pollen - only struggling if I've inadvertently left a totally pollen clogged frame in the mix as it just sets into a solid mass. No mould issues either.
So yes, must be a Yorkshire thing.

 

[Beefriendly]

Well here's hoping for the pollen mites...they should be big and fat by spring.

 

[BMH]

Storing wet is best for two reasons one of which is above re the moth.



The other is that in spring the bees love the runny honey which it is then by reason of absorbing moisture from the atmosphere over the winter. So no messing with problems getting bees into the super.



PH

When storing supers wet, do you ever apply certan as well?

Or just ratchet them up with boards and store wet?

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[Eyeman]

Yorkshire wax moths must be quite unusual as I have had wet supers and brood frames attacked by them. Perhaps they started on dry bits first...

What I would like a foolproof solution to is pollen clogged frames and how to get the pollen removed. Storing outside wet the frames are covered in mould come spring and the bees don't seem to like dealing with this.
Currently trying to cultivate pollen mites and AKA Eric1/2B store in shed rather than outside, and also try some in poly bags in warmth of airing cupboard.
But if anyone has a solution to this problem I'd be very interested to hear.

Wax moths are ubiquitous in the UK. Drawn comb is so valuable whether in honey supers or brood boxes it needs looking after. I spray mine with BT. Not had you're problems with mold come spring, fortunately.

 

[BMH]

Wax moths are ubiquitous in the UK. Drawn comb is so valuable whether in honey supers or brood boxes it needs looking after. I spray mine with BT. Not had you're problems with mold come spring, fortunately.

BT?

Do you spray them wet or get them dry first?

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[Beefriendly]

Not had you're problems with mold come spring, fortunately.

Its just the frames/cells with pollen in that go mouldy...stored outside.
Trying indoors and hope for pollen mites this year.

 

[madasafish]

I have pollen frames in outer positions go mouldy in winter. Bees seem to clear them up without difficulty...either superbees or more likely no choice..eat or starve..