USA Colony Losses

[Erichalfbee]

bloody vogons again!

Not just them
Livestock too
https://www.agindustries.org.uk/resource/livestock-and-soya-fequently-asked-questions.html

 

[JamezF]

bloody vogons again!

Could be that it's for animal feed for meat?

James

 

[Moobee]

Ble

Blessed are the cheesemakers

And all other manufacturers of dairy based products…

 

[Moobee]

I spoke to a researcher last night, who is investigating the big losses in migratory operations in the past year. He has found something quite concerning. Upon testing live bees in hives now located in the Almond orchards have huge levels of imidiacloprid. He said that many of the live bees have levels over 1000 ppb. It seems that the contaminated bees can live for awhile with such high levels of the insecticide, but most are dead a week after testing. He began testing bees in California almonds as soon as the losses were being reported. The imidacloprid exposure is from soybeans.

Sorry if it’s a dim question, but how would he know the exposure is from soybeans and not another crop?

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Sorry if it’s a dim question, but how would he know the exposure is from soybeans and not another crop?

it's the US, they only do monoculture with barren lifeless strips in between

 

[Michael Palmer]

Sorry if it’s a dim question, but how would he know the exposure is from soybeans and not another crop?

Not dim at all. The vast majority of imidacloprid used in the US is on soy. I’ll post a link to his study when it is published. Should be soon as his presentation was at the ABF meeting.

 

[Moobee]

Not dim at all. The vast majority of imidacloprid used in the US is on soy. I’ll post a link to his study when it is published. Should be soon as his presentation was at the ABF meeting.

Thank you

 

[Firefly]

Not dim at all. The vast majority of imidacloprid used in the US is on soy. I’ll post a link to his study when it is published. Should be soon as his presentation was at the ABF meeting.

Thanks Michael for taking us round full circle - I enjoyed the meandering through splats and Vogons, but neither of them had any answers

Not everyone may realise that imidiacloprid is a neonicotinoid, which of course sets all the alarm bells ringing

I found a study that says soy is a much more significant source of nectar - and presumably pollen - than people had historically realised. The journalist does not raise the pesticide issue, but two commenters do below the story

This does not rule out issues like stress, monocropping and viruses, of course, but it could be another hole in the boat. The unique feature of CCD, as reported, is that the collapsed hives are empty, not full of dead bees, which suggests some factor that is causing highly abnormal behaviour prior to death. Neonic dressings on soy is not new, so other factors might be a reason why some years are worse than others

I'm encouraged by the point that the federal authorities are more on the case this time, unless president Musk has dismantled them, of course

 

[Penninetrader]

Thanks Michael for taking us round full circle - I enjoyed the meandering through splats and Vogons, but neither of them had any answers

Not everyone may realise that imidiacloprid is a neonicotinoid, which of course sets all the alarm bells ringing

I found a study that says soy is a much more significant source of nectar - and presumably pollen - than people had historically realised. The journalist does not raise the pesticide issue, but two commenters do below the story

This does not rule out issues like stress, monocropping and viruses, of course, but it could be another hole in the boat. The unique feature of CCD, as reported, is that the collapsed hives are empty, not full of dead bees, which suggests some factor that is causing highly abnormal behaviour prior to death. Neonic dressings on soy is not new, so other factors might be a reason why some years are worse than others

I'm encouraged by the point that the federal authorities are more on the case this time, unless president Musk has dismantled them, of course

With the appointment of JFK it would seem reasonable that anything food related will not be overlooked, one of his biggies is chemical treatment of crops. The very first meeting he had was with Monsanto. Health is very high on the list of priorities for the Trump administration, they are looking to the youth for continuity beyond his term.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Health is very high on the list of priorities for the Trump administration

 

[Penninetrader]

He who laughs last

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

is usually a bit slow on the uptake

 

[JamezF]

I've often wondered why interviewers aren't a little more forceful when challenging people such as RFK Jr when they flat-out deny statements they have made previously. For instance in a podcast in July 2023 he said "There’s no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective." (it's on YouTube) and four months later denied he'd ever said it and accused the interviewer of making it up.

Surely all that would be required would be to present them with the actual evidence there and then, rather than just referencing something that everyone can find? But of course if they did that then politicians would just refuse to give interviews to anyone who might challenge them.

James

 

[Penninetrader]

I've often wondered why interviewers aren't a little more forceful when challenging people such as RFK Jr when they flat-out deny statements they have made previously. For instance in a podcast in July 2023 he said "There’s no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective." (it's on YouTube) and four months later denied he'd ever said it and accused the interviewer of making it up.

Surely all that would be required would be to present them with the actual evidence there and then, rather than just referencing something that everyone can find? But of course if they did that then politicians would just refuse to give interviews to anyone who might challenge them.

James

That was your negative and I will respond with my positive, a food dye that is carcinogenic has now been banned due to RFK, your move