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Friar Tuck

House Bee
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National
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Did the full inspection today ... 7 frames of brood in all stages mainly caped. and 5 frames full of honey. Full to the brim :smilielol5:
 
What type of hive do you have as you seem to have 12 frames in it?
 
a national ? both with 12 frames
 
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1 removed so i can inspect / how many should i have ?
 
Normally 11 as 12 is a bit of a squeeze.
 
interesting if you put plastic ends on hoffmans, just look at the difference, theres an eighth of an inch inbetween the frames. will that make any difference to the size of the bee?
 
Its the cell size that affects the size of the bee not the gap between the frames.
 
interesting if you put plastic ends on hoffmans, just look at the difference, theres an eighth of an inch inbetween the frames. will that make any difference to the size of the bee?

smaller bees are better :)
 
Friar if you look at the pic you have posted, the marks on the wall seem to show that there were 11 frames in it before.
 
The honeybee cells prior to 1893 were about 4.9 mm. in diameter. After that year the
comb cells were artificially enlarged to 5.4 mm. and up. The thinking at that time was
bigger bees, more honey. But the natural cell size of 4.9 mm. bees have 22% more cells
per frame.(1) This means more bees, more honey.
We should look at the bees in the wild and try to mimic their habitat. There is air
movement in the hollow trees at all times. The use of screen bottom boards will
duplicate the air flow and a large number of mites and trash will fall out the bottom just
as in the hollow trees.
With small cell bees you will virtually eliminate your Tracheal and Varroa mite
problems. The trachea tube of the 4.9 bees are smaller and therefore prohibit the mites
from entering into the trachea’s of the bees. This makes one thing less that you will have
to treat. Another example of this is with the Varroa mite. 4.9 bees have a shorter capping
time of the cells by 12 hours and shorter post capping time by 12 hours. (2) This
interruption of the life cycle means less Varroa getting into the cells and reproducing in
them. Therefore less Varroa mites will be reaching maturity. Also, the Varroa mites do
not like to lay their eggs in the smaller 4.9 cells.
The bees will chew Varroa mites out of the cells on the down side of the honey flow. (3)
The chewing out will start slowly as the queen stops raising drones, and will pick up as
the drones are expelled from the hive, then will taper off just prior to the brood nest
cleaning time.
Varroa mites will multiply up to 12 times faster on regular 5.4 foundation drone brood
than on worker brood. (4)
Small cell bees, when used in conjunction with screen bottom boards along with powder
sugar dusting in the fall, will give an effective chemical free control of Varroa.
 
You can actually buy small cell foundation if thats what you want.
 
Friar if you look at the pic you have posted, the marks on the wall seem to show that there were 11 frames in it before.

nope 11 frames in the hive and a gurt big gap you ?:bigear:
 
you can fit in 12 hoffman frames, but as they are propolised and stuff the 12th gets more difficult to get in.

most used 11 and a dummy board

a propolised dummy is no different to a frame ? is it ?
 
Yes it allows a bit more room than a frame as they don't draw out wax on the dummy board.
 

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