Too late for Artificial Swarm?

[BernardBlack]

QCs today. Sorting them tomorrow with an Artificial Swarm. Just wondered if it is too late for this though?

I suppose I can unite again later on anyway, if colony too weak to survive winter?

 

[For want of a better word]

Still loads of drones in out Amm colonies... others have mostly kicked them out
As you are in Amm country no reason why mating can not be accomplished.

Nos da

 

[beeno]

QCs today. Sorting them tomorrow with an Artificial Swarm. Just wondered if it is too late for this though?

I suppose I can unite again later on anyway, if colony too weak to survive winter?

A bit late in the year for mating IMHO, but you might get lucky. You can always unite them back together with the old queen if unsuccessful as you said.

 

[Beefriendly]

Still loads of drones in out Amm colonies... others have mostly kicked them out

That's the problem with locally adapted Amm's no sense of approaching winter...squandering their resources on drones this time of year.Tut Tut.

 

[BernardBlack]

Still loads of drones in out Amm colonies... others have mostly kicked them out
As you are in Amm country no reason why mating can not be accomplished.

Nos da

Forgive my ignorance. What's Amm?

 

[Beefriendly]

Forgive my ignorance. What's Amm?

An extinct (almost) species of bees that used to be the only native bee in the UK before we imported bees from other countries. And now we have mongrels as the predominant native bee. Like pandora's box we can't go back, although some try.

 

[Wingy]

Inspected my hives a couple of days ago 2 still have drones present and 1 of those still a few capped drone cells. F2 Buckfast. The 3rd hive not a drone in sight. F1 Buckfast.

 

[Murox]

Forgive my ignorance. What's Amm?

The Dark European Honey Bee, Apis mellifera mellifera. This link http://www.dave-cushman.net/bee/amm.html will take you to a page of an interesting site. Some of Cushman's writings, in common with some of the writings on this forum, need to be taken with a pinch of salt as they can contain elements of myth, pseudoscience, etc etc.

 

[pargyle]

The Dark European Honey Bee, Apis mellifera mellifera. This link http://www.dave-cushman.net/bee/amm.html will take you to a page of an interesting site. Some of Cushman's writings, in common with some of the writings on this forum, need to be taken with a pinch of salt as they can contain elements of myth, pseudoscience, etc etc.

I think you will find that Dave Cushman's original writings were factual, objective and generally accurate - where he could not provide reliable detail he always annotated the information as such. When he died the site was bequeathed to the care of Roger Patterson who has a more liberal approach to the site and a slightly more subjective and personal views which he includes when updating the site. Whether you consider his writings fact or fiction is very much a personal point of view.

 

[Popparand]

I think you will find that Dave Cushman's original writings were factual, objective and generally accurate - where he could not provide reliable detail he always annotated the information as such. When he died the site was bequeathed to the care of Roger Patterson who has a more liberal approach to the site and a slightly more subjective and personal views which he includes when updating the site. Whether you consider his writings fact or fiction is very much a personal point of view.

Every beekeeper has his or her own opinion on every topic, and in the end you have to make up your own mind. Keep asking or researching the same question and eventually you will find a solution that works for you. IMHO the Cushman/Patterson blog contains a lot of valuable insights.

(I think I am agreeing with PG, and if that goes against the spirit of beeforum, sorry about that)

 

[Popparand]

The Dark European Honey Bee, Apis mellifera mellifera. This link http://www.dave-cushman.net/bee/amm.html will take you to a page of an interesting site. Some of Cushman's writings, in common with some of the writings on this forum, need to be taken with a pinch of salt as they can contain elements of myth, pseudoscience, etc etc.

If Apis mellifera mellifera is specific to "British" black bees, pray what species are my striped mongrels? Apis puellae Essexiae?

 

[Brigsy]

Isn't this a thread about A/S?

 

[Ian123]

Spray tans gone wrong

 

[stoneleighhouse]

Same story
Demareed hives earlier in the season
3 hives with more than 1 qc , queens all present , this years queens, eggs also present
3 AS's conducted, will reunite in a few weeks hopefully on a benign late September day

 

[Murox]

Every beekeeper has his or her own opinion on every topic, and in the end you have to make up your own mind. Keep asking or researching the same question and eventually you will find a solution that works for you. IMHO the Cushman/Patterson blog contains a lot of valuable insights.

(I think I am agreeing with PG, and if that goes against the spirit of beeforum, sorry about that)

Yes the Cushman/Patterson blog is a valuable resource.

 

[Beefriendly]

Yes the Cushman/Patterson blog is a valuable resource.

It was when it only provided facts and not opinion.
Since Dave died it's has become increasingly opinionated and lots of rubbish to baffle and mislead the unknowing...witness this article
http://www.dave-cushman.net/bee/leylines.html.

Not a shred of factual evidence...yet it flies under the same banner.
Daves original site was simply facts no wacky opinions and that was a valuable resource.
Not now. IMHO.

 

[Levitt53]

QCs today. Sorting them tomorrow with an Artificial Swarm. Just wondered if it is too late for this though?

I suppose I can unite again later on anyway, if colony too weak to survive winter?

Are you sure it’s not super Sepersedure?

 

[madasafish]

It was when it only provided facts and not opinion.
Since Dave died it's has become increasingly opinionated and lots of rubbish to baffle and mislead the unknowing...witness this article
http://www.dave-cushman.net/bee/leylines.html.

Not a shred of factual evidence...yet it flies under the same banner.
Daves original site was simply facts no wacky opinions and that was a valuable resource.
Not now. IMHO.

We agree. Is this a record?