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JohnyP

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hi All,

After complaints from the land owners and neighbours I had to move my less than friendly hives in a hurry. To make them lighter, I extracted from the supers the day before the move. I now have over 15 pounds of very thin nectar/honey. What should I do with it? Can I safely give it back to the bees in a feeder? It's been off the hives for 3 weeks now.
 
I know too late now.. but why didn't you take supers off to transport and replace them when resited??
 
SLAGIATT



Think I'll make Elder-flower mead :)





and if you're wondering

Seemed Like A Good Idea At The Time
 
Elderflower mead seems like a much better idea.
 
I have two gallons on the go right now and it smells wonderful
 
Melomel flavored mead with elderflower.

First, I have to admit to this is my first attempt at this but have made a good bit of mead and elderflower wine so its not rocket science to merge the two. After all, its basically flavoring the mead with the elderflowers and its elderflower wine made with honey instead of sugar.

Ingredients per gallon

3.5 – 4 lbs of honey, ripe honey is not needed but just a guide as its best to get the right starting gravity with a wine hydrometer. Or simply guess it.

Approx 25-30 flower heads of elderflower picked on a nice sunny day.

One lemon or a lime

Wine nutrient

Wine yeast

Equipment

Fermenting bucket (ideally two)

Demijohn (I use the 5l water bottles after using the water to make the mead)

Airlock

Sieve

Hydrometer (optional)

Place approx 3lb of honey into the fermenting bucket and add approx three quarters of a gallon and mix together. Check with the hydrometer. I like to start my mead off at 1.1 and find this gives me a nice mead. I adjust the water and honey to get to 1.1 idealy when you reach the gallon. The hydrometer is optional but will help to give a consistent result, but if you think you have approx 3.5-4 lbs of honey in a gallon it will work out ok. Higher or lower may result in a dry or sweet mead.

Wash and cut your lemon or lime into quarters and add to the must.

Using scissors, try and remove the individual flowers from the green stalks trying to remove as many green stalks as possible. Cut enough to fill a pint glass three quarters full after light tamping down, then add this to the must and stir it all together (boy things start to smell nice at this point)

Leave for five days covered and stir it once or twice a day.

After five days sieve the must into a 2nd fermenting bucket to remove the flower heads and quarters of the lemon or lime.

Add one teaspoon of yeast nutrient and one teaspoon of wine yeast, stir and leave for 4-5 days stirring each day. You can use fancy yeasts, but I just go with the standard wine yeast. If I was making more than one gallon I would use one teaspoon for the first gallon then half for any other. Also ideally you are supposed to have the must at 23* to add the yeast, but I find at this time of year a warm room or boat works just fine to get thing going.

After 4-5 days when the initial vigorous fermentation has eased you then place in your chosen demijohn with an airlock and wait for fermentation to almost stop and start to clear. At this point is is good to rack off the mead into a 2nd demijohn leaving as much of the sediment behind. You can top up with water and then refit the airlock.

When all the waiting is over and there is no sign of fermentation and it looks wonderfully clear you can decide to add a campden tablet or other additives to kill off any yeast that may still be active, but dormant and could start a 2nd fermentation in the bottle when the conditions are right that could result in exploding bottles. In the past I never bothered and never had any problems, but now worry as I seem to have bottles stored for longer and it worries me slightly so I now give each gallon a campden tablet but understand better additives are out there.
 
Thanks for that recipe, Tom.
I have some on the go but I used some elderflower cordial I had made with honey earlier. I just substituted it for some of the water and used champagne yeast.
Early sampling is encouraging. I think it's going to be quite alcoholic. I do think the elderflower, at this stage, is a little overpowering. What do you think?
Now ..... the raspberry melomel is heavenly and should be fantastic by Christmas.

I was talking to a vintner the other day and he reckons that if you put a screw cap on a living wine it will not really mature and change in character and you get to drink roughly what you bottle (mine are all in swing top beer bottles) So.....I have ordered some 37.5cl wine bottle and I will rebottle and cork.
 
I love elderflower wine Dani and don’t mind that the smell of the elderflower is strong it reminds me of the elderflower lemonade I made as a child, but only with the alcohol and I hope it comes through with the mead. With luck a bottle will be at this years National Honey Show or next year if I can wait that long. Raspberry wine is the loveliest wine I make and fortunately I can get my hands on a few pounds of the over ripening fruit at the end of the season, just me and the wasps fighting it out for the last crop. It would be lovely to try it with raspberry but I am thinking blackberry as they are so abundant and also makes an excellent wine along with a few other hedgerow /towpath pickings.
 
I would say if you are lucky and everything goes well four months but in reality anything above that and for some the longer you can leave them the better they get.
 
I had honey like that- you can reduce the water content but it takes days in a fan assisted oven on very low- just keep an eye on the temp that it does not go above 40'C or it apparently affects the honey. You do need to stir it every now and again too. Its good for personal use.
 
No idea if this will work but it's a shame to waste that nectar

Can you not bottle it up and freeze it to prevent fermentation and feed it slowly back to the bees as and when

I appreciate people thoughts on this
 

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