Tansy as a weapon against wax moth

[Anduril]

Just watched a New Zealand you tube video from the owner of "Ceracell beekeeping supplies". They recommend placing Tansy leaves between each box that you store for winter to keep wax moth at bay. Probably something for Icanhopit to try along with his rhubarb leaves.

 

[For want of a better word]

I use Acetic ( Ethanoic) Acid and it has an effacacity of 100%

Perhaps Tansey contains ethanoic acid??

Yeghes da

 

[masterBK]

I was told that in parts of Europe they use sprigs of Artemisia (worm wood)to deter wax moth. I have also come across reference to Rhododendron tomentosum (Ledum palustre) commonly known as Marsh tea being used for this purpose.

 

[psafloyd]

I use Acetic ( Ethanoic) Acid and it has an effacacity of 100%

Perhaps Tansey contains ethanoic acid??

Yeghes da

How do you get hold of it and apply it, icanhopit?

 

[Anduril]

Collection only at some beekeeping suppliers and http://www.bees-online.co.uk/resource-downloads/Acetic_Acid_Fumigation.pdf

 

[JWF]

How do you get hold of it and apply it, icanhopit?

You can buy it on eBay :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acetic-Ac...-Keeping-Descaler-Free-Shipping-/322659168752


Instructions here :

www.nationalbeeunit.com/downloadDocument.cfm?id=1067

 

[Anduril]

You can buy it on eBay :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/192259744944


Instructions here :

www.nationalbeeunit.com/downloadDocument.cfm?id=1067

That is too dangerous https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...ggsMAA&usg=AFQjCNFZToVDnLzGvWyITti_wjrfYEMJQA

 

[JWF]

That is too dangerous https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...ggsMAA&usg=AFQjCNFZToVDnLzGvWyITti_wjrfYEMJQA

I've corrected my post to show 80% ethanoic rather than glacial.

It's only Royal Mail that won't ship it - if it is packaged and labelled correctly it is perfectly safe to be transported.

 

[psafloyd]

Collection only at some beekeeping suppliers and http://www.bees-online.co.uk/resource-downloads/Acetic_Acid_Fumigation.pdf

Thanks.

 

[psafloyd]

I've corrected my post to show 80% ethanoic rather than glacial.

It's only Royal Mail that won't ship it - if it is packaged and labelled correctly it is perfectly safe to be transported.

Thanks for that. And you just spray it on? Any dilution?

 

[For want of a better word]

Thanks for that. And you just spray it on? Any dilution?

80% is good to go ( 80ml glacial with 20ml water would be about correct???)

It is the same stuff as put on Muck Donallds chips.... I prefer a brewed malt vinegar.. but active ingredient is acetic ( ethanoic) acid

Yeghes da

 

[JWF]

Thanks for that. And you just spray it on? Any dilution?

Look at the instructions, you soak a pad in the acid and let the fumes spread through the stack of supers and frames.

I wouldn't recommend spraying concentrated acetic acid about as it is aggressive stuff.

 

[Poly Hive]

if it is packaged and labelled correctly it is perfectly safe to be transported.

Hmm and so is Nuclear Fuel.

The post office have finally got caught on to the transport of dangerous goods regulations.

To package the stuff for general shipping would be very expensive, so for a reasonable deal google your local chemical supplier as they in my experience in Aberdeen usually stock it.

PH

 

[denise washington]

you can buy tansy seeds from amazon for 99p for 1600 seeds some says its good for varroa aswell but not tried it

 

[JWF]

if it is packaged and labelled correctly it is perfectly safe to be transported.

Hmm and so is Nuclear Fuel.

The post office have finally got caught on to the transport of dangerous goods regulations.

To package the stuff for general shipping would be very expensive, so for a reasonable deal google your local chemical supplier as they in my experience in Aberdeen usually stock it.

PH

Sturdy outer box, moulded polystyrene internal support and UN approved internal container holding the liquid. Not particularly expensive, and it's how most non bulk chemicals get shipped around the world. There are significant restrictions on airfreight and trans-shipped through tunnels like via Eurostar (for example, acetic acid with its corrosive fumes is prohibited via airfreight).

Whether an EBay supplier meets these requirements is, of course, another matter!

 

[charlievictorbravo]

you can buy tansy seeds from amazon for 99p for 1600 seeds some says its good for varroa aswell but not tried it

There may be something in that. Here's an extract from Wikipedia regarding Tansy -

"Insect repellent
Tansy has also been cultivated and used for its insect repellent and in the worm warding type of embalming. It was packed into coffins, wrapped in funeral winding sheets, and tansy wreaths were sometimes placed on the dead. Henry Dunster, the first president of Harvard University, was buried wearing a tansy wreath in a coffin packed with tansy; when “God’s Acre” was moved in 1846 the tansy had maintained its shape and fragrance, helping to identify the president’s remains. By the 19th century, tansy was used so much at New England funerals that people began to disdain it for its morbid association with death.

During the American colonial period, meat was frequently rubbed with or packed in tansy leaves to repel insects and delay spoilage. Tansy was frequently worn at that time in shoes to prevent malaria and other fevers; it has been shown, however, that some mosquito species including Culex pipiens take nectar from tansy flowers.

Tansy can be used as in companion planting and for biological pest control. It is planted alongside potatoes to repel the Colorado potato beetle, with one study finding tansy reduced the beetle population by 60 to 100%."

All the usual questions arise - will it damage the queen, will it affect larvae, will it change workers' behaviour, will it taint honey, etc. What it needs is some proper research!

CVB

 

[For want of a better word]

Tansy or "golden buttons" as it is called in Sussex is a really nasty plant...

The leaves and flowers are toxic if consumed in large quantities; the volatile oil contains toxic compounds including thujone, which can cause convulsions and liver and brain damage.WiKi

I expect there will be fields of it planted under some local grant funding initiative in and around the
greatgreygreengreaseytamarriverallsetabputwithquangosfoodbanksandhimalayanbalsomcutters!

I will stick to me vinegar thanks!!

Yeghes da

 

[jeff33]

Only good if the moth haven't already laid eggs in frames. The acetic acid also kills larvae so it's a better option.