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Anyone know if there's been any work done on stacking modes of action to control varroa? Its been shown to be the best way to reduce resistance building up in plenty of situations (herbicides, fungicides) so would assume treating varroa is no different??
 
Are you talking about IPM ("Integrated Pest Management")?

That should be standard beekeeping practice.
See for example "Managing Varroa"
http://beekeepingforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=21261
Control methods can be divided into two groups: management methods (‘biotechnical methods’) and medicinal controls (‘varroacides’). In practice, the best controls result from using a combination of methods at different times of the year depending on the level of infestation. This is commonly known as ‘Integrated Pest Management’ or ‘IPM’.
 
Are you talking about IPM ("Integrated Pest Management")?

That should be standard beekeeping practice.
See for example "Managing Varroa"
http://beekeepingforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=21261

no not IPM, it would be the equivalent of treating with apiguard and bayvarol at the same time, you should need less of each then the standard dose and it will take longer for varroa to get resistance to either of the two
 
it would be the equivalent of treating with apiguard and bayvarol at the same time
This sounds illogical to me.
Neither product kills 100% of the varroa mites so exposing the mites to two separate poducts (which, I am sure would be against the vetinary licence) must half the time to reach resistance since they are constantly exposed to both treatments.
Is there something I have misunderstood here?
 
This sounds illogical to me.
Neither product kills 100% of the varroa mites so exposing the mites to two separate poducts (which, I am sure would be against the vetinary licence) must half the time to reach resistance since they are constantly exposed to both treatments.
Is there something I have misunderstood here?

it was probably a bad example, this is a bit about stacking in wormers but if that can be directly applied across to varroa is really what I was looking to find out.

Treating simultaneously with 2 drugs from different anthelmintic classes is one method of preventing the development of anthelmintic resistance. A computer based model has documented that if this strategy is used when the drugs are first introduced, before there is any selection for resistance to either drug, appreciable resistance will not develop for over 20 years. However, once resistance alleles accumulate in worm populations, this strategy will probably not be successful. Compared with individual drug effects, anthelmintics of different chemical classes administered together induce a synergistic effect, resulting in clinically relevant increases in the efficacy of treatment. This synergistic effect is most pronounced when the level of resistance is low. Once high-level resistance to both drugs is present, the synergistic effect is unlikely to produce acceptable levels of efficacy. In contrast, the same model indicated that rotating drugs with each treatment, using annual rotation or a 5- or 10-year rotation resulted in high-level resistance within 15 to 20 years (38). Thus, the common recommendation of annual rotation must be challenged. Rotation of drugs was originally suggested on the basis of the hypothesis that reversion to susceptibility (or at least substantial decrease in resistance gene allele frequency) might occur if resistant worms were less fit than were susceptible worms, and counter selection was applied via treatment with a drug from a distinct chemical class. However, evidence that resistant worms are any less fit or that true reversion occurs in the field is scant. Despite this, the concept of rotation is often viewed as a bona fide resistance prevention scheme, which it is not. Therefore, some leading small ruminant parasitologists are now calling for an end to the practice of rotation (27). It is suggested that a drug should be used until it is no longer effective, then a different drug should be used. The main rationale behind this recommendation is that: 1) the arsenal of effective drugs is limited, making it difficult to institute a true rotation on many farms; and 2) progressive development of resistance will make it easier to monitor the resistance problem on a farm
 
A computer based model has documented that if this strategy is used when the drugs are first introduced, before there is any selection for resistance to either drug, appreciable resistance will not develop for over 20 years. However, once resistance alleles accumulate in worm populations, this strategy will probably not be successful.

Obviously, there is a great deal of difference between worming drugs and acaricides and between computer models and the real world, but we have had varroa in this country since the early 1990's. There has already been sufficient time for resistance to develop and, in fact, some parts of the country already have resistant varroa mites.
I'm sorry to pour cold water on your idea but its about 25 years too late. Personally, I find a combination of open-mesh floors and hygienic bees reduces the population of varroa to a level where it causes no significant problems.
 
Obviously, there is a great deal of difference between worming drugs and acaricides and between computer models and the real world, but we have had varroa in this country since the early 1990's. There has already been sufficient time for resistance to develop and, in fact, some parts of the country already have resistant varroa mites.
I'm sorry to pour cold water on your idea but its about 25 years too late. Personally, I find a combination of open-mesh floors and hygienic bees reduces the population of varroa to a level where it causes no significant problems.

Do you not treat your bees??
 
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