So is compulsory registration on the way

[MuswellMetro]

Our RBI suggested in a private conversation that from 2018 a law may be made that requires compulsory registration of beehives in the UK

i could notfind any eveidence except this link to this EU sponsored report http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0079018

has anyone else come accross info on a propsed compulsory registration from 2018?

 

[mbc]

So is compulsory registration on the way ?

NO !

 

[drstitson]

Why should bees be regarded as different to any other form of livestock? Compulsory registration and annual hive declaration is a minor hassle only.
little point having beebase if you have scattered outliers, hidden from the system, acting as disease reservoirs, unchecked by the inspectors.

 

[itma]

I don't expect it to is happening now. Doubtless someone important was overheard saying they would like to see it happen, but that ain't quite the same!

I wouldn't object if it was introduced.
Just as long as they don't feel they need to have an administration charge.
Rather it ought to be a route to channelling Euro subsidy money to beekeepers rather than DEFRA ... now THAT would be an incentive to register!

 

[Gilberdyke John]

Why should bees be regarded as different to any other form of livestock? Compulsory registration and annual hive declaration is a minor hassle only.
little point having beebase if you have scattered outliers, hidden from the system, acting as disease reservoirs, unchecked by the inspectors.

So who registers the feral hives or what will happen to the organic and no intervention keepers? It's another box ticking exercise we can manage without.

 

[mbc]

I don't expect it to is happening now. Doubtless someone important was overheard saying they would like to see it happen, but that ain't quite the same!

I wouldn't object if it was introduced.
Just as long as they don't feel they need to have an administration charge.
Rather it ought to be a route to channelling Euro subsidy money to beekeepers rather than DEFRA ... now THAT would be an incentive to register!

Presactly !
The only workable way it could happen. Dont hold your breath though.

 

[Dishmop]

Do we have to count the bees?

Not sue how they would hadle rgistration inthe swarming period..

I want to register 3 hves.

oops.Change what said yesterday. I now have 4

Opps they've gone again. so I now have 3 again..

 

[VEG]

Will never work

 

[pargyle]

So who registers the feral hives or what will happen to the organic and no intervention keepers? It's another box ticking exercise we can manage without.

Can't see that should make a difference ... if you keep bees ... you register !

I'm not a great fan of even more legislation in an already over legislated society but if it comes (and it's not yet another way of raising stealth taxes by charging us for the privilige of throwing money at our hobby !) then so be it ... I know, in my area, that there are a couple of totally irresponsible (so called 'conventional' beekeepers) whose hives are the source point of EFB virtually every year. If registration also gave RBI's some power to do something about such people then it could be a good thing ...

Tin hat in place ....

 

[VEG]

They all ready have that power

 

[Brian Bush]

I would be in favour of compulsory registration of all beehives. It makes good sense. A couple of years ago I received the dreaded e-mail placing my hives in quarantine due to an outbreak of foul brood less than 3 km from my apiary. I contacted the bee inspector and enquired whether my other out apiary was affected. He said no but would come and inspect. Upon inspection I had the all clear. I had to inform him of another apiary nearby that was not registered. He said that this outbreak had been spread by a number of unregistered hives. i.e. Hives that were placed in quarantine were inspected but, hives unknown to the bee inspectors, hives had facilitated the spread. He said he would regularly turn up to inspect known hives to have it pointed out that there were other hives within a km that were acting as a bridge between outbreaks. What has a beekeeper to fear from registering hives? Nothing! I have gained lot from visits by the inspectorate and random testing carried out FOC when I was fortunate enough to have my colonies randomly selected. If there is an out break of foot and mouth we would all deplore a farmer who illegally moved cattle and spread the disease. Why should beekeepers be any different. As for the feral colonies, it is the same for any communicable disease, other animals can transport it. It must surely bee in the interests of all beekeepers to ensure that we all achieve the highest standards and that includes non-interventionists etc.

 

[pargyle]

They all ready have that power

If they can find them .... and even then, with EFB they still can only 'recommend' a course of action (as far as I am aware ?) ... AFB they can insist and have the power to carry out hive destruction.

 

[midnight sun]

Might be a way of indirectly channelling more money into MP's expenses more like!

 

[VEG]

As far as I am aware the only person that cannot move hives in an EFB area is the person found to have EFB. There is no restriction on other hives in the area.

 

[mbc]

As far as I am aware the only person that cannot move hives in an EFB area is the person found to have EFB. There is no restriction on other hives in the area.

Unless a shared apiary as its the apiary that gets put under a standstill notice.

 

[VEG]

I meant others in the 3km area. The standstill notice does indeed apply to all hives in an infected apiary. Also to make a BDI claim ALL hives in an apiary have to covered by BDI.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Sounds like a pornographic ventriloquist act to me.................................
Talking balls - do you think that person with an unregistered apiary would do so just because it was made compulsory?
anyway - can you imagine the hassle getting all those ear tags on?

 

[mbc]

Also to make a BDI claim ALL hives in an apiary have to covered by BDI.

Thieving insurance company puts conditions on paying out on circumstances out of control of the policy holder, SHOCKER ! (not !)

 

[hiveabee]

Far to many jobs for the boys in this country, being registered with the bbka should be good enough. Dog owners used to have to get a dog licence but not now because the powers that be found it was to expensive to monitor.
Everybody wants to be all nicey nicey and be kind to nature but when such like us beeks who try very hard to keep honey bees fit and well and continue being a important part in nature, some do gooder thinks of some scam to try and get revenue from the likes of us.

 

[Russel]

I meant others in the 3km area. The standstill notice does indeed apply to all hives in an infected apiary. Also to make a BDI claim ALL hives in an apiary have to covered by BDI.

All hives owned by the beeks in a shared apiary and any they may have elsewhere have to be covered if the S/RBI knows about them. If you under declare you total number of colonies, BDI won't pay out.