Putting Super below brood box for Winter

[Superlativesoul]

Hi all ,any guidance much appreciated, thinking of putting a super below the brood box When is the best time to do this ,and what wasp prevention is needed to protect the super from being robbed
John

 

[Swarm]

Don't do it just yet.
What's in the super? Unripe honey? That's the objective with a nadir, if the honey is capped, spin it off and enjoy.

 

[BernardBlack]

Don't do it just yet.
What's in the super? Unripe honey? That's the objective with a nadir, if the honey is capped, spin it off and enjoy.

Can you explain nadir? It’s not a term I’m familiar with, or maybe I know it by a different name.

Also, the reasoning behind doing it?

 

[user 819]

Nadiring (under supering) means lowest point, so for unripe or unsealed stores the idea is the bees will move it up for winter stores where they can protect it better. Hence one nadirs the super .

Personally I don't bother , I prefer to extracter any remains and simply top feed it back.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Can you explain nadir?

The lowest point, ie below the brood box
from Old French, from Arabic nazīr as-samt, literally: opposite the zenith

 

[madasafish]

I have done it for the past 8 years with no issues.

(no good on weak colonies,but then trying to overwinter weak colonies in a full size box rarely succeeds)