Oxalic acid dose

[Finman]

http://scientificbeekeeping.com/oxalic-dribble-tips/
http://www.dave-cushman.net/bee/oxalicdribble.html

First link - read it all..



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California is the last place from where you should go to search dribble information. IT just does not work there. I have read Scientic Beekeeper's evaluations about dribbling, and he does not know much about it.

And he gives too much stuff to bees. 5 ml /seam is double box and 3 ml is to one box colony.

Dribbling has bee given 15 years in Scandinavia to hives, and no problems. But dribbling alone does not save bees. IT needs treatment in August with thymol or with formic acid. Otherwise varroa hurts badly winter brood.

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[charlievictorbravo]

What is the year of this information?

The only date information in the document is this:- "DATE OF FIRST AUTHORISATION/RENEWAL OF THE AUTHORISATION
<Date of first authorisation:> 01/02/2018" so the document appears to be fairly recent although when the testing was done is not stated.

CVB

 

[For want of a better word]

Lets not fog this up Hoppy...it's NOT a sublimator.

Works on same principle... OA is heated in a chamber and is carried there in a solution which immediately vaporises along with the OA that also goes to its gaseous form when it reaches the correct temperature......

Nos da

 

[duncanpt]

Oxybee or Oxalic Acid

I came to this thread following a Google search for Oxybee which Th***s have just started selling in the UK.

From reading the publicity material, it seems to be an oxalic acid preparation mixed with glycerol to make it stick to the bees more. It's cleared by the National Bee Unit as ok to use under the vet medicines rules as far as I can see.

Thing is, the instructions indicate that you get two components in the pack, one of which is oxalic and the other is the glycerol element.

My immediate thought was: Does that mean the Bee Unit are allowing generic oxalic now? Looks like the answer is "no" from their leaflet which mentions Oxybee but pours scorn on "homemade concoctions" which includes generic oxalics.

That strikes me as being somewhat inconsistent as surely what you do with the two pieces of Oxybee is pretty uncontrolled as well. Is this just another way of selling oxalic at high prices?

PS: The same "if it's regulated it must be ok" mindset operates in the world of backgarden chickens, which I also have, where DEFRA detests feeding your chickens kitchen scraps because they aren't regulated, but will allow any old regulated rubbish even if it's bad for the chickens (the slightly-OTT example I found was potato crisps - too much for salt for chickens).

 

[Millet]

Canada are allowing legal Weed so god knows what we are allowing..

 

[jeff33]

If I was cynical I would say that whoever pays the most gets the licence....

 

[fatshark]

I came to this thread following a Google search for Oxybee which Th***s have just started selling in the UK.

From reading the publicity material, it seems to be an oxalic acid preparation mixed with glycerol to make it stick to the bees more. It's cleared by the National Bee Unit as ok to use under the vet medicines rules as far as I can see.

Thing is, the instructions indicate that you get two components in the pack, one of which is oxalic and the other is the glycerol element.

My immediate thought was: Does that mean the Bee Unit are allowing generic oxalic now? Looks like the answer is "no" from their leaflet which mentions Oxybee but pours scorn on "homemade concoctions" which includes generic oxalics.

That strikes me as being somewhat inconsistent as surely what you do with the two pieces of Oxybee is pretty uncontrolled as well. Is this just another way of selling oxalic at high prices?

PS: The same "if it's regulated it must be ok" mindset operates in the world of backgarden chickens, which I also have, where DEFRA detests feeding your chickens kitchen scraps because they aren't regulated, but will allow any old regulated rubbish even if it's bad for the chickens (the slightly-OTT example I found was potato crisps - too much for salt for chickens).

I think it's VMD that make the rules, not the NBU. NBU cannot - obviously - do anything but recommend approved treatments.

Shelf life of Oxybee when made up is interesting ...

 

[For want of a better word]

Shelf life of Oxybee when made up is interesting ...

I do not think it will be put on many beekeepers shelves!

Chons da

 

[fatshark]

Well, you can be damn sure that no-one else will be buying it!
After all ... there are much cheaper ways of cleaning the teak deck on your yacht.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

there are much cheaper ways of cleaning the teak deck on your yacht.

Works well on stainless steel and brass deck fittings as well - we used to use loads of it. In fact, I still use it to clean stained 'stainless' steel bee equipment.

 

[charlievictorbravo]

If I were to attempt to defend the indefensible, I would say that the two ingredients supplied in the Oxybee package, the glycerol and the oxalic acid, are of approved quality and sourced from suppliers whose processes are compliant with ISO 9001.

I bet that makes you all feel content now, eh?

CVB

 

[Gilberdyke John]

If I were to attempt to defend the indefensible, I would say that the two ingredients supplied in the Oxybee package, the glycerol and the oxalic acid, are of approved quality and sourced from suppliers whose processes are compliant with ISO 9001.

I bet that makes you all feel content now, eh?

CVB

Wonderful!
Now where's the food grade caustic soda?