Non-Smoker

[ericbeaumont]

Expensive

Light an eggbox; when it's built a good flame, blow it out; wave it over the top of the open hive.

 

[Erichalfbee]

Which is odd when considered in conjunction with the beekeepers who used a pipe fed through their veil to provide smoke. Perhaps that was just a dream...

James

like this

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

like what?

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Which is odd when considered in conjunction with the beekeepers who used a pipe fed through their veil to provide smoke. Perhaps that was just a dream...

James

maybe you are thinking of German beekeepers using an Imker Pfeife, purpose made bee smoking pipes - they are still available

 

[Hedgerow Honey]

That is not good. I spend quite a lot of time in the S Yorks area halfway between Barnsley and Doncaster so know quite a bit of miners backgrounds. The area was absolutely decimated when the mines closed, there was no plan for what would come after.. They are now recovering somewhat but the damage has been done in terms of dereliction drugs crime and most importantly moral. They have retained something of the past and that is of community. They are hard tough people and I like them. They had a bit of notoriety but it is what attracted me to the area, they burnt an effigy and marched on the death of MT, there were and are mixed feelings about that even now. Unfortunately the gov's of Tony Blair did absolutely nothing for them, shameful

My grandfather was an ex miner also. He was due on shift when the Gresford disaster happened, fortunately though he had transferred to Llay main and avoided the explosion but returned to join the rescue squad.
Eventually was run over by a coal cart when a wire rope snapped and was retired.
His bees provided sugar supplement for most of the village through both wars he used to tell me, and then made an income when he recovered from his accident.

He hated MT with passion for what she did to the industry.
I still have pictures of the rescue squad and the documents from his own accident which led to his retirement.

Never wanted for coal, there was always tons of the black stuff piled in the sheds I remember.

 

[enrico]

Light an eggbox; when it's built a good flame, blow it out; wave it over the top of the open hive.

That takes time, it is so useful when you really need it for it to be a finger twitch away. That odd occasion when they boil out, one squirt and they are back in again. Mine has lasted twelve years and is still going.

 

[JamezF]

maybe you are thinking of German beekeepers using an Imker Pfeife, purpose made bee smoking pipes - they are still available

Ah, no. I mean like in these photos:







The flat caps over the veils are an interesting addition. I wonder if that was to hold the veil in place?

James

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

well where else would you put your cap but on your head?
Although with modern 'fencing' veils you can wear it inside the veil - I've found that handy if it's raining, or when I'm around the hives with the veil down but prepared to flip it over if the bees get a bit to curious.

 

[Gilberdyke John]

Certainly not rich, a welder, council house all his lie, with a mediocre NCB pension (he shifted it to a private pension after a snakeoil seller missold it to him even after I begged him not to) and his brood (especially his son) snaffles up anything he has spare

Children may grow up and even fly the nest but very few cease to require support. Some moreso than others.

 

[Gilberdyke John]

My grandfather was an ex miner also. He was due on shift when the Gresford disaster happened, fortunately though he had transferred to Llay main and avoided the explosion but returned to join the rescue squad.
Eventually was run over by a coal cart when a wire rope snapped and was retired.
His bees provided sugar supplement for most of the village through both wars he used to tell me, and then made an income when he recovered from his accident.

He hated MT with passion for what she did to the industry.
I still have pictures of the rescue squad and the documents from his own accident which led to his retirement.

Never wanted for coal, there was always tons of the black stuff piled in the sheds I remember.

And yet labour governments led by Wilson closed more pits. 160 under Thatcher. 235 under Wilson. Even Atlee closed 101. Politics is a dirty business!

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Children may grow up and even fly the nest but very few cease to require support. Some moreso than others.

in this case, the son is just a layabout, knows his father is a soft touch and takes advantage of him at every opportunity, expensive tools and kit he borrows never get returned and swiftly end up on ebay or similar. The daughters, especially the youngest two are different - run to him when they need his support, but also look after him, especially since he was widowed. We've been friends for over thirty years, his eldest (the son) is a year older than me and the youngest, Terisa, fifteen years younger than me. his wife always referred to me as 'our adopted son' as I spent so much time over the road (they lived opposite me for years) with them for a sly smoke or just chatting, fly tying and planning fishing trips, and always ended up there for a mixed grill supper after a hard Saturday session in the club.

 

[Penninetrader]

My grandfather was an ex miner also. He was due on shift when the Gresford disaster happened, fortunately though he had transferred to Llay main and avoided the explosion but returned to join the rescue squad.
Eventually was run over by a coal cart when a wire rope snapped and was retired.
His bees provided sugar supplement for most of the village through both wars he used to tell me, and then made an income when he recovered from his accident.

He hated MT with passion for what she did to the industry.
I still have pictures of the rescue squad and the documents from his own accident which led to his retirement.

Never wanted for coal, there was always tons of the black stuff piled in the sheds I remember.

It really was the callous abandonment, I guess they maybe thought it revenge for the strikes.Whatever the reason it was criminal and caused the whole country a loss. There are quite a lot of distribution centers there now and reasonable work. The scars will always be there.