Neighbour problem

[Winker]

Apply for permission for a patio. Shoot the neighbour and any witnesses. Bury under patio with a decent mix of quick lime. Problem solved

you've done this before i can see

 

[user 6228]

Erect 25ft high "Bee trees" A new ecological device that allows you to hoist your bees to around and above the 15ft high level that they have been scientifically proven to favour and then lower them for inspections. These use the latest green mast tubular technology previously only used in the mobile phone industry.

You will need planning permission but it appears that your local planning authority is very accomodating and given the Ecological credentials of the product and of course the bees, you should have no problem.

 

[BeeJayBee]

I would have thought you can legally put up a huge fence your side to retain your privacy. I think the law is that a 6' fence max, but that must assume the same level ground either side - so you have privacy in your garden, but not blocking out light from neighbour.

http://www.boundary-problems.co.uk/boundary-problems/fences.html

And I think you can add trellis to the top, through which you can grow climbers.

 

[AnotherNewBee]

If he's raised his lawn to about 4 feet build a 10 foot fence on your side. That'll be 6 foot on his side and, therefore, high enough for the bee problem to be eliminated.

Added: Sneak into his garden while he's on holiday. Dig a 6 foot deep trench so he can enjoy his garden without sticking his head above the parapet and into your bees' flight path.

 

[Ely]

you've done this before i can see

Who me?!?!

ok....Once or twice. I don't really have neighbours anymore which is one of the nicest of lifes situations to find yourself in.

 

[MandF]

http://www.boundary-problems.co.uk/boundary-problems/fences.html

And I think you can add trellis to the top, through which you can grow climbers.

Yes you can generally, didnt really think to mention it as I was talking about doing it for privacy, however even with no climbers the bees would fly over it I think?

I would make the fence as high as possible, including trellis, and then plant a really vigorously growing climber like yellow passion fruit, which bees like.

 

[Silly Bee]

2 metres for a fence, but as high as you like for those dreadful conifers?

 

[parkranger]

We recently had a conservatory built which, according to the local planning authority, overlooked the neighbour's garden and the consent was conditional on the erection of a fence/screening of min 6ft to allow them some privacy. Given the facts about his change of patio level, surprised that he has not had to do the same which may have solved the problem at his expense and not yours!.

 

[itma]

2 metres for a fence, but as high as you like for those dreadful conifers?

This does sound like a job for the aforementioned leylandii ... (the bees will not go through them in numbers)
... but a decently high fence would be even quicker.

 

[AnotherNewBee]

If it was my garden, and my neighbours, I'd settle on the Leylandii. They can grow much faster than I'd ever get round to putting up a fence.

Seriously, if the OP originally claimed that raising the level would cause a problem - and it now has - surely the most appropriate route is to make the neighbour take his problem to the council? He caused it himself. He should solve it at his own expense.

The OP has a right to enjoy his property too. He has been doing so successfully for 35 years (and 4 years? with the bees). He is being prevented from enjoying his own property because of his neighbour's actions.

 

[Silly Bee]

Plant Leylandi?

Glad you're not my neighbour.

 

[thorn]

There's an unpleasant spirit evinced in a number of the replies in this thread. First people start suggesting that the neighbour lied about being stung, despite there being no such suggestion in the original post. Then the neighbour is attacked for for doing something perfectly reasonable in his own garden. The problem that subsequently arose was something that neither of the parties could foresee.
Next people are trying to find ways of deliberately making the neighbour uncomfortable, for example by planting leylandii, despite the fact that the beek says he can get round the problem.
The original poster simply asked if anyone had any ideas about why his bees disliked his neighbour. He didn't say that he had a problem with him or that the neighbour was in any way dishonest or unreasonable. The info about the raised garden came later, and there's no talk of a falling out between them, just an objection to the planning application, which is nothing unusual between neighbours.
Too many people who come on this forum are just plain petty.

 

[Poly Hive]

It will be interesting to see if this rings bells with anyone else?

From attending demonstrations I can remember being told that "I always get stung at these do's. My hubby or wife or friend.. never does."

From that I can only surmise that some are more prone to being stung than others.

Sadly in this instance from the OP's post there is not much that can be done apart from move the bees. After all the neighbour has a perfect right to the use of his garden and in the spirit of good neighbours the bees will be better somewhere else.

I can see the ideas behind change the flight path and so on but as the forage changes so will the flight path. Far better to be safe than sorry.

PH

 

[fox403]

Guys been put hospital and op says he sees bees going for him ....we need a guildline even with friendly bees ( that can change) 50 meters? 60 meters from a neighbors garden...??

sent from fox's moby

 

[The Cumbrian]

Plant Leylandi?

Glad you're not my neighbour.

Last year my neighbour halved the height of his 12 foot Leylandii hedge. I was heart broken. I have lived happily with that hedge for over 25 years. Leylandii don't need to be a problem.

He cut his side and top I cut mine, it worked very well.

He only cut it because he was told by somebody not involved in any way he could get into trouble if it was more than 6 feet. It bothered no body was a great wind break and gave us complete privacy.

Leylandii are only a problem if it isn't cared for and kept trimmed.

 

[Black Comb]

You've no choice other than move them.
I think the neighbour has been very understanding.
Do it now before he complains to the council and remain friends.

 

[Silly Bee]

There's an unpleasant spirit evinced in a number of the replies in this thread. First people start suggesting that the neighbour lied about being stung, despite there being no such suggestion in the original post. Then the neighbour is attacked for for doing something perfectly reasonable in his own garden. The problem that subsequently arose was something that neither of the parties could foresee.
Next people are trying to find ways of deliberately making the neighbour uncomfortable, for example by planting leylandii, despite the fact that the beek says he can get round the problem.
The original poster simply asked if anyone had any ideas about why his bees disliked his neighbour. He didn't say that he had a problem with him or that the neighbour was in any way dishonest or unreasonable. The info about the raised garden came later, and there's no talk of a falling out between them, just an objection to the planning application, which is nothing unusual between neighbours.
Too many people who come on this forum are just plain petty.

Indeed, some sound like they might be cat owners.

 

[Swarm]

Last year my neighbour halved the height of his 12 foot Leylandii hedge. I was heart broken. I have lived happily with that hedge for over 25 years. Leylandii don't need to be a problem.

He cut his side and top I cut mine, it worked very well.

He only cut it because he was told by somebody not involved in any way he could get into trouble if it was more than 6 feet. It bothered no body was a great wind break and gave us complete privacy.

Leylandii are only a problem if it isn't cared for and kept trimmed.

Beg to differ.
A lot depends on their location.
My neighbour has mature Leylandii trees forming a boundary with my garden, they form a continuous 'hedge' (term used very loosely) that are 12 ft or more in height. "They have to be at least that height because of their age" is the nonsense I have had for 24 years living in the shadow cast across the garden. Half the entire length never sees sunlight, the ground is parched and worthless and whenever I cut back my side (isn't it great to be given this extra chore without asking) there is usually a scene, where he accuses me of all sorts and even lashed out at me on one occasion. I pointed out (in no uncertain terms) that would be the biggest mistake he'd ever make and offered to meet him out front and the little creep crawled off. Totally frustrated by the predicament and their attitude I simply began promising to 'punch his lights out' whenever he started his childish outbursts. It doesn't help with the problem but at least he disappears.

People are entitled to enjoy their gardens and this should not be prevented by a neighbour, whether it's trees, bees or anything else.

 

[Hivemaker.]

My neighbour has mature Leylandii trees forming a boundary with my garden, they form a continuous 'hedge' (term used very loosely) that are 12 ft or more in height.

They can also have a mysterious way of just dying.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

They can also have a mysterious way of just dying.

Copper nails - trees just slowly die in a very natural looking way - not that I've ever had to do that (I find my trusty Husky 65 with 22 inch chain bar does the trick neatly )