Manchester Cathedral Apiary; By Appointment

[madasafish]

I am sure CATHEDRAL HONEY has special therapeutic properties: healing gout, ,attacks of the vapours, bowel problems, festering sores etc.

The CATHEDRAL is about to become very wealthy from the pilgrims flocking in their millions: will put Lourdes into the shade...

 

[Erichalfbee]

I am sure CATHEDRAL HONEY has special therapeutic properties

Like an indulgence?

 

[eddyh]

Make some special label's and call it religious nut honey.Specially if the bee's have been drinking the holly water,like a puddle outside the cathedral.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Instead, it got high jacked by that egocentric narcissist JBM,
who turned it into a thread about himself,
when it was meant to be about me, me, me!

Dusty

You're quite right Dusty - it should be all about me!
But just remember - you may be hoping for a knighthood but I.................

Have Royal blood​

 

[pargyle]

Positive on all fronts - not only for his honey and future elevation (and not by the neck!) but for starting a thread that has drifted from honey by Royal appointment, through family trees and the young pretender to giving johnny crapaud a sound thrashing - Hurrah!

Seems like the forum has returned to a bygone age as well ... all the better for it AFAIAC... bit of everything in this thread and variety is definitely the spice of life !!

 

[Norfolk]

O.K. I'll start:
my Great (times 24) Grandfather was Rhys ap Tewdur (Tudor) King of Deheubarth and founder of the Dinefwr (my lineage) and Tudor dynasties.
Rhys Tewdur is HMQ's Great (times 23) grandfather.
We also share other ancestors such as King Hywel the good and Llewelyn the great.

I'm interested in these claims of being a descendant of various noble characters and how people come by the info, ever since my mother told me I was descended from Rob Roy MacGregor. I suspect that I might more than likely been descended from a pig herder who was once spat on by Rob Roy as he walked by.

For example have you gone back following the Maternal or Paternal route?

 

[Erichalfbee]

I suspect that I might more than likely been descended from a pig herder who was once spat on by Rob Roy as he walked by.

Husband is descended from one Akrigg who was in charge of coursing dogs and told Ethelred, "Stand aside, King, and let the dogs have their quarry" on one occasion. It's not clear whether he ever managed to say it a second time.
Me....I'm Polish and records all lost in the second world war

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

For example have you gone back following the Maternal or Paternal route?

Does it really matter?Or are you saying I'm not related to Ceiriog James, farm hand, tinplate worker, coal miner and factory stores manager because he is related on my maternal side being my mother's father?
I can trace my great grandmother's paternal lineage using census, BMD and church records to the notorious Oakley Leigh, steward of Pentrefelin and Port Reeve of Lampeter (not Noble in the least!), more than one genealogist has traced his lineage back to Ralph Leigh who married into the Pritchard family. From then on the Pritchard/wynn etc. lineage is well documented as it is the story of the Welsh nobility.
Remember that Henry Tudor was only descended from the Tewdurs through the maternal line also.

 

[victor meldrew]

In another couple of generations tracing ancestry will have to rely on DNA data as no one will know who fathered what and with what.
What ,what! : D
VM


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[REDWOOD]

In another couple of generations tracing ancestry will have to rely on DNA data as no one will know who fathered what and with what.
What ,what! : D
VM


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Better not do DNA testing in Madeira if they want to keep the royal blood line strong

 

[Norfolk]

Does it really matter?Or are you saying I'm not related to Ceiriog James, farm hand, tinplate worker, coal miner and factory stores manager because he is related on my maternal side being my mother's father?
I can trace my great grandmother's paternal lineage using census, BMD and church records to the notorious Oakley Leigh, steward of Pentrefelin and Port Reeve of Lampeter (not Noble in the least!), more than one genealogist has traced his lineage back to Ralph Leigh who married into the Pritchard family. From then on the Pritchard/wynn etc. lineage is well documented as it is the story of the Welsh nobility.
Remember that Henry Tudor was only descended from the Tewdurs through the maternal line also.

I'm not "saying" anything, I'm asking questions as I find it interesting.
There are plenty of ways to determine a persons ancestry.
Jews for example work solely on a maternal basis. Norsemen used solely the paternal.

 

[Luminos]

And Horsemen only use the filly-al.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

And Horsemen only use the filly-al.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I'm not "saying" anything, I'm asking questions as I find it interesting.
There are plenty of ways to determine a persons ancestry.
Jews for example work solely on a maternal basis. Norsemen used solely the paternal.

In old Welsh law a man needed to know his lineage for I think ten generations - it was handy for claiming shelter/assistance from a more wealthy kinsman. Lineage was worked using the patronymic system - ap (or the mutated ab) for son of and either ych or ferch for daughter of. thus my correct patronymic lineage would be Emyr ap Arwyn Ap Arthur ap Gwilym ap Dafydd ap Sion and so on which would be the Jenkins line - my sister would have claimed the same line so my mother was just the person who gave birth to us but could claim assistance from both her line (Ceiriog ap Risiart (Ffon) ap Dafydd ap Risiart)and my father's through marriage but I've just researched all branches of my family back at least to the late 1700's and a few further (the Leigh line was done by other family members who shared their research on line). Just a very interesting subject that's all

 

[Norfolk]

.......Just a very interesting subject that's all

I agree, I had my DNA tested by Oxford Ancestry, very interesting results.
It seems that my fathers line shows up through Europe heading North through Scandinavia until arriving in the UK, and my mothers traveled Westwards into France and then up to Ireland before crossing into the UK.
Still trying to get my head around it.
Both having left Africa across the land bridge as we all did apparently.

 

[Dusty Rhodes]

In old Welsh law a man needed to know his lineage for I think ten generations - it was handy for claiming shelter/assistance ............

Says it all, really.

Scroungers, one and all!

Dusty

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I think it was more a case of ensuring we didn't give aid to any Englishmen

 

[Dusty Rhodes]

Just an update......

Wot I did last week


http://www.manchestercathedral.org/news/359/some-15000-bees-swarming-at-manchester-cathedral


Ok, how many things did I get wrong?

Dusty.

P.S. Isn't it proof that our cathedral bees are something special?
They clearly have a devotion to the cross.

 

[Swarm]

1. Extend the ladder further to avoid stretching.
2. Get them all in the box (or did you spot the queen?)

 

[Dusty Rhodes]

It wasn't an extending ladder.

I did see her. But it didn't end there. I waited a while for the rest to come in, trying to look dead cool. Then it started to drizzle.

I'd prepared a new hive on the roof. So I put the box in a plastic bag, took it upstairs and emptied the bees into the hive. But in the 10 seconds it took me to turn round and get the queen excluder on, HM must have absconded. I didn't realise, put everything away and went in for a cup of tea.

Half an hour later, going home, I realised there were almost as many bees as before. So I had to start again. In the pouring rain. Didn't look so cool the second time round. Pratfall of the day.

Dusty