maisemore poly

[Saffabee]

Thanks. So does the BB hold one less frame than wooden (10 rather than 11)?

No the footprint is bigger they hold eleven frames but the wooden box will fit onto the poly with the poly walls sticking out. They are good boxes though and I haven't damaged one yet!


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[alldigging]

Can the people who have ever broken a frame taking it out of a hive tell us where they buy their frames?

 

[bontbee]

Can the people who have ever broken a frame taking it out of a hive tell us where they buy their frames?

P'raps, those that don't just chuck their frames when they replace comb - unlike those who have frames that are donkeys years old 'cos they clean 'em up and use 'em again, and again, and again.

I have broken a few lugs on these old frames over the years - and I don't use a J tool - but I just hammer a nail in as a "temporary" fix till the comb is cycled out....

 

[alldigging]

P'raps, those that don't just chuck their frames when they replace comb - unlike those who have frames that are donkeys years old 'cos they clean 'em up and use 'em again, and again, and again.

I have broken a few lugs on these old frames over the years - and I don't use a J tool - but I just hammer a nail in as a "temporary" fix till the comb is cycled out....

Well, maybe then it's the sheer age of the frame and what's been done to it previously rather than the J tool's use.

I find the J tool easy to use and would hate to think people were being scared off using it because of very very old reconditioned frames occasionally breaking.

 

[bontbee]

Well, maybe then it's the sheer age of the frame and what's been done to it previously rather than the J tool's use.

Yep, that's just what I was trying to say!

I find the J tool easy to use and would hate to think people were being scared off using it because of very very old reconditioned frames occasionally breaking.

Quite agree! it's down to personal preference which tool you use - and how.

 

[dannygolf1959]

same inner size but maisemore is a good bit thick so the boxes overhang the cedar boxes

 

[BeeJayBee]

Can the people who have ever broken a frame taking it out of a hive tell us where they buy their frames?

The only people I've known to break frames using a j tool have been newer beekeepers who hadn't been shown how to use it properly.

Some of them were still using the frames their bees arrived on, others - I don't know, I didn't ask.

The 'j' itself can be used the same way the curved piece can fit between two frames with the tool almost flat against the top bars a rotating movenet then separates the frames

The better ones, yes, but some of the hooks aren't thick/wide enough for this to work.

 

[Curley]

Don't know about the hives but I have both maisy's and paynes' poly nucs. The maisy's ones are a much better design but I must say I think the actual material of the paynes is denser and better quality. Have others found the same?

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I think the actual material of the paynes is denser and better quality. Have others found the same?

No - the opposite

 

[chrisb]

No - the opposite

 

[Teemore]

Ditto.

 

[Cussword]

No - the opposite

Me too.

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[Tremyfro]

Ive got one Paynes and quite a few Maisie nucs. I like both but the metal rail in the Paynes makes it easier to manipulate the frames. I use some thin wooden battens along the outside edge of the broodbox as this helps prevent squashages. I also made a number of thin clear Perspex lids for the top bars and this helps with the propolising problem....and I can easily see the bees without actually opening the nuc.

 

[Swarm]

Paynes only supply runners with their hives, the nuc is supplied without. In fairness to paynes, the others have had the benefit of ironing out any issues so they should be an improvement.

 

[Tremyfro]

Paynes only supply runners with their hives, the nuc is supplied without. In fairness to paynes, the others have had the benefit of ironing out any issues so they should be an improvement.

My Paynes is a full size hive and has runners....wasn't clear in my post. Although I do have a Paynes nuc as well.

 

[Truble]

You can add a metal runner to a Paynes nuc by making a slot with a craft blade or like and cutting a metal runner to size and pressing into the slot. You loose the small amount of top bee space and need to be careful when replacing perspex crown-board to not squash bees.

 

[Brigsy]

Do the poly boxes fit onto standard wooden floors please? And are the boxes top or bottom bee space or is it eitherway depending how you set it up please?

Thanks

 

[Swarm]

They will but with an overlap, make your own it'll be a better job. Bottom bee space.

 

[Brigsy]

Thanks Swarm.