Langstroth advice

[maddydog]

There is nothing stopping a person from making floors and roofs out of wood for poly broods. Workes some like that for years and they did just as well as the full poly ones. I had 2" of dense insulation in the roofs.

PH

Exactly what I do. Swienty poly brood where I want the warmth and wood for robustness

 

[bjosephd]

Do any poly manufacturers make 8 frame langs?

 

[Poly Hive]

Not that I know of and can't think why they would. If that is your preference then buy the standard 10 and use 2 dummies. But why force them to 8 when they are more than happy with 10?

PH

 

[foghornleghorn]

Do any poly manufacturers make 8 frame langs?

Paradise honey would probably be the best to try, they're trying to build on the Australian market

 

[B+.]

why force them to 8 when they are more than happy with 10?

I never understood this American obsession with 8-frame brood chambers. There is no reason for them that I can see (except possibly for a nuc). If the queen can't fill 10 frames, she should be replaced.

 

[B+.]

Paradise honey would probably be the best to try, they're trying to build on the Australian market

I can't imagine a climate that is less like Finland.

 

[Finman]

I can't imagine a climate that is less like Finland.

Look from internet: Polystyrene beehive Australia. Poly protects nest from heat.

 

[B+.]

Look from internet: Polystyrene beehive Australia. Poly protects nest from heat.

Of course. How stupid of me.

 

[Finman]

Paradise honey would probably be the best to try, they're trying to build on the Australian market

8 frame boxes.... Then you need compatible all other stuff, like excluders, feeders, floors.... It does not sound standard.

 

[user 15607]

Thanks for reply. I was asking if you could confirm whether or not Paradise honey make a square edged box. Chris B has been told they do, but it is not in their catalogue.

Try Honey Paw, their boxes don’t have a lip

http://www.mesi.fi/en/


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[user 15607]

Hi,

Have a look at Paradise Honey poly hives as look very strong. Considering them myself
http://paradisehoney.net/en/ also have a UK distributer [email protected].

I've no connection with them but just looking for a good strong polyhive myself.

I think British Beefeeds only sell National Paradise boxes


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[bjosephd]

I am on 10 frame Langstroths and very happy with them. And asking about 8 frame poly was a combination of some recent ponderings.

One pondering was about experimenting with some poly boxes to get a feel for what they are like.

The other pondering was using one size box with langs probably works quite well with 8 frame. A narrower taller cavity (with single, double or even triple brood) slightly closer to that of a tree, and better insulation. And totally interchangeable frames without ending up with a top box of honey weighing a metric f^@*tonne.

The 8 frame boxes of honey would be somewhat easier to handle than a full size lang. I'm still strong enough, but it's not the most joyful of weightlifting.

If bees do prefer working more vertically in a better insulated cavity... this might be a way.

Anyway, it's an unlikely experiment, and quite often my boxes have 9 frames in them anyway.


B

p.s.
I'm in australia at the moment, and although I haven't actually got involved with any beekeeping while here, I see apiaries allll over the place, and I seem to see pretty much exclusively stacks of white wooden 8 frame deep langs with migratory covers.
I appreciate that the climate here is somewhat different.
(and they still don't have varroa... seriously... wtf... it must change beekeeping so much!)

 

[Swarm]

No they don't, but they do have SHB.

 

[madasafish]

B

p.s.
I'm in australia at the moment, and although I haven't actually got involved with any beekeeping while here, I see apiaries allll over the place, and I seem to see pretty much exclusively stacks of white wooden 8 frame deep langs with migratory covers.
I appreciate that the climate here is somewhat different.
(and they still don't have varroa... seriously... wtf... it must change beekeeping so much!)

Lots of Paradise Honey poly boxes in Australian YouTube videos..

 

[Finman]

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How to make 8 frame box when honey frames are heavy.

Take off first 2 frames and the then the rest 8

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PS... Full honey langstroth has honey 25 kg. IT is heavy to handle, and that is why you may use medium box. IT is 2/3 langstroth. IT has 16 kg honey when full (with 9 frames).

8 frames full have 20 kg honey.

Brood boxes does not have much weight. IT is easy to lift 2 brood boxes together.

So, where we need then 8 frames.

 

[foghornleghorn]

8 frame boxes.... Then you need compatible all other stuff, like excluders, feeders, floors.... It does not sound standard.

8 or 9 frame is the standard out there

 

[foghornleghorn]

I never understood this American obsession with 8-frame brood chambers. There is no reason for them that I can see (except possibly for a nuc). If the queen can't fill 10 frames, she should be replaced.

They do tend to be solid brood, very little pollen or honey stored so different to here

 

[Finman]

8 or 9 frame is the standard out there

We do not need to carry whole world's problems.

 

[Finman]

8 or 9 frame is the standard out there

I looked Australian home page and it says that 8 and 10 are common.
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[foghornleghorn]

I looked Australian home page and it says that 8 and 10 are common.
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They run 9 frames in 10 frame boxes because their boxes are narrower than the European/American 10 frame boxes