Insulating for a low consumption hive - review of book by Jean Riondet (La Ruche Basse Consommation D'Energie)

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Jean Riondet uses 10 frame Dadant hives and aluminised bubble-wrap insulation above, below and on both sides of the brood nest. A thin layer of insulation is placed directly across the frames in addition to a thick insulation layer a the top of the hive. There is also a double floor, the upper looks like a crown board with a narrow slot and this is insulated. This system was developed originally by Marc Guillemain and has been put into practise by Jean over many years.

In Marc's system, the brood chamber is surrounded by reflective partitions, and can be adjusted in size from as little as one frame, moving a partition along as the colony expands. A second chamber contains frames with honey and pollen. When the brood chamber becomes too hot or too crowded, the bees overflow into the honey chamber. Because of the insulation, the queen can lay complete frames, right up to the edges even for the outer frames. In particular, there is no longer wasted space at the bottom of a frame. In winter, bees can move easily from one frame to the next, passing below the frame to reach honey in the extremities of the hive. Feeding by internal reservoir is preferred.

it was speculated that this hive produces more honey than a standard Dadant despite fewer frames of brood. The hive has a faster start in spring. Thermal imaging shows the 35 degC brood chamber vs 21 degC honey chamber. And the hive is at 16 degrees in winter.

Varroa treatment by oxalic vaporisation is achieved by temporarily adding an eke directly above the brood chamber to provide an extra entrance slot for the vaporiser and to keep it away from the plastic insulation which would probably melt.

I found the system presented to be very interesting. It would be adaptable to any 10 (or more) mobile frame hive. Learning about the benefits of such careful insulating made it a worthwhile read.

All the following is in French, but even without the language, you may find you can understand enough through the pictures or video.

Website in French by Jean Riondet: http://apiculture.beehoo.com

Video presenting the hive RBC:

Photo of the book cover:
IMG_3540-rbc.jpg
 
You can watch the YouTube video with English sub-titles using auto-translate. It does a pretty good job. It fails with 'Couvin' which I think is brood nest and 'smages', . . . bit of a guess, swarm. ?

I have watched some videos from "Une Saison Aux Abeilles" and the auto-translate is not as successful. Sometimes it produces 'reindeer', no clue. Maybe 'reine' = queen? He talks faster and maybe he has a regional accent. (we all do). :LOL:

The winters must be shorter and warmer with you in France. Is this for bees kept at high altitude?
Your Dadant boxes are considerably bigger than the standard National box most hobbyists use here. Therefore less room for extra dividers.
Separating the stores from the brood nest in areas with different temperatures sounds logical. I think for beekeepers who want to be in control. I'm more inclined to let them use the more natural format of honey above brood.
Beekeepers are often experimenting. Thanks for posting this.
 
Jean Riondet uses 10 frame Dadant hives and aluminised bubble-wrap insulation above, below and on both sides of the brood nest. A thin layer of insulation is placed directly across the frames in addition to a thick insulation layer a the top of the hive. There is also a double floor, the upper looks like a crown board with a narrow slot and this is insulated. This system was developed originally by Marc Guillemain and has been put into practise by Jean over many years.

In Marc's system, the brood chamber is surrounded by reflective partitions, and can be adjusted in size from as little as one frame, moving a partition along as the colony expands. A second chamber contains frames with honey and pollen. When the brood chamber becomes too hot or too crowded, the bees overflow into the honey chamber. Because of the insulation, the queen can lay complete frames, right up to the edges even for the outer frames. In particular, there is no longer wasted space at the bottom of a frame. In winter, bees can move easily from one frame to the next, passing below the frame to reach honey in the extremities of the hive. Feeding by internal reservoir is preferred.

it was speculated that this hive produces more honey than a standard Dadant despite fewer frames of brood. The hive has a faster start in spring. Thermal imaging shows the 35 degC brood chamber vs 21 degC honey chamber. And the hive is at 16 degrees in winter.

Varroa treatment by oxalic vaporisation is achieved by temporarily adding an eke directly above the brood chamber to provide an extra entrance slot for the vaporiser and to keep it away from the plastic insulation which would probably melt.

I found the system presented to be very interesting. It would be adaptable to any 10 (or more) mobile frame hive. Learning about the benefits of such careful insulating made it a worthwhile read.

All the following is in French, but even without the language, you may find you can understand enough through the pictures or video.

Website in French by Jean Riondet: http://apiculture.beehoo.com

Video presenting the hive RBC:

Photo of the book cover:
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Thermally I don't see much improvement over a decent poly hive, plus it seems like a lot of faffing about.
 
You can watch the YouTube video with English sub-titles using auto-translate. It does a pretty good job. It fails with 'Couvin' which I think is brood nest and 'smages', . . . bit of a guess, swarm. ?

I have watched some videos from "Une Saison Aux Abeilles" and the auto-translate is not as successful. Sometimes it produces 'reindeer', no clue. Maybe 'reine' = queen? He talks faster and maybe he has a regional accent. (we all do). :LOL:

The winters must be shorter and warmer with you in France. Is this for bees kept at high altitude?
Your Dadant boxes are considerably bigger than the standard National box most hobbyists use here. Therefore less room for extra dividers.
Separating the stores from the brood nest in areas with different temperatures sounds logical. I think for beekeepers who want to be in control. I'm more inclined to let them use the more natural format of honey above brood.
Beekeepers are often experimenting. Thanks for posting this.
Thank for the tip regarding auto-translate; I should already have discovered that. It will help with other subjects, as well as beekeeping. :)
 
You can watch the YouTube video with English sub-titles using auto-translate. It does a pretty good job. It fails with 'Couvin' which I think is brood nest and 'smages', . . . bit of a guess, swarm. ?

I have watched some videos from "Une Saison Aux Abeilles" and the auto-translate is not as successful. Sometimes it produces 'reindeer', no clue. Maybe 'reine' = queen? He talks faster and maybe he has a regional accent. (we all do). :LOL:

The winters must be shorter and warmer with you in France. Is this for bees kept at high altitude?
Your Dadant boxes are considerably bigger than the standard National box most hobbyists use here. Therefore less room for extra dividers.
Separating the stores from the brood nest in areas with different temperatures sounds logical. I think for beekeepers who want to be in control. I'm more inclined to let them use the more natural format of honey above brood.
Beekeepers are often experimenting. Thanks for posting this.

It is not particularly for bees at high altitude. Jean lives near Lyon, I would guess less than 200 m above sea level, so the summers are much warmer than in the UK but sometimes winters can be much colder than the south (-12 degC).

The biggest take-home for me from this approach is to lay insulation across the frames to reduce any space above the frames and reflect back the bees heat. It does not have to completely cover the frames, for example, leaving access to fondant, but every bit of reflected heat helps.
 
Thank for the tip regarding auto-translate; I should already have discovered that. It will help with other subjects, as well as beekeeping. :)
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Separating the stores from the brood nest in areas with different temperatures sounds logical. I think for beekeepers who want to be in control. I'm more inclined to let them use the more natural format of honey above brood.
Beekeepers are often experimenting. Thanks for posting this.

For honey harvesting, supers are used just like for regular Dadant management, but their end frames are insulated for continuation with the brood box.
 

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