How accurate is the Beebase apiary count?

[Parsonage Bees]

There's a website that will draw a circle on a map for you if you want to see how big a 10k radius really is....

https://www.freemaptools.com/radius-around-point.htm

This looks useful, perhaps too clever for me.

10km radius = 314.159 km² or 77630.325 acres. When you put it that way 37 apiaries doesn't sound a lot.

If only you could merge this with the register of addresses so you could work out that, say, 1 in every 50 households has an apiary. I don't think there is a commercial beekeeper in my area so we are looking to backyard beekeepers like me.

. . . . Ben

 

[Finman]

This looks useful, perhaps too clever for me.

10km radius = 314.159 km² or 77630.325 acres. When you put it that way 37 apiaries doesn't sound a lot.

. . . . Ben

It depends, what kind of land and vegetation it is. But 10 km radius is too big to evaluate pastures. 2 km radius is proper.

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[Parsonage Bees]

It depends, what kind of land and vegetation it is. But 10 km radius is too big to evaluate pastures. 2 km radius is proper.

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That's another data set you could merge it with. Percentage woodland, intensive agriculture, domestic gardens. . . . Who would have that data?

. . . . Ben

 

[Finman]

That's another data set you could merge it with. Percentage woodland, intensive agriculture, domestic gardens. . . . Who would have that data?

. . . . Ben

You go to landscape and look with your eyes.

Then look, how much flowers already have bees per square metre.

Google Earth is good too see, what inside 1 km and 2 km.

This is not mathematics.

 

[madasafish]

Really? Why?

Do you belong to a BKA? How many members are there? Mine has 300+ members, most have an apiary, and a fair amount are going to be within 10k of me (that's an area of 314.15 square km if my school maths serves me).

Beebase says there are 113 within 10k of me so that's only one per three square km.

Our Association - North Staffs covers a large area. Even our local members cover an area with a radius of at least 20kms... so 1200sq kms..Some of it is for all intents uninhabitable by bees for most of the year due to height and weather..

 

[Parsonage Bees]

To be positive about an inaccurate database of apiaries, it allows the targeted delivery of information to a receptive audience. Even if someone no longer has bees they know other people who do and will pass on that information/threat. And hopefully fend off the Asian Hornet or Small Hive Beetle for another year.

. . . . Ben

 

[Madge]

... I have old apiaries on BeeBase that I no longer use but can't find a "remove" option so they sit there indefinitely. ...

You can't delete your main apiary, B+ - but you can delete any of the others. There's a huge cross with a 'Delete this apiary' button at the bottom of the apiary details.



Kitta

 

[amigadave]

You can't delete your main apiary, B+ - but you can delete any of the others. There's a huge cross with a 'Delete this apiary' button at the bottom of the apiary details.

I only have one apiary, so didn't know this.

 

[B+.]

You can't delete your main apiary, B+ - but you can delete any of the others.

Thanks Kitta.....I suppose I should have gone to Sp*cSavers, eh? ;-)

 

[Swarm]

Don't bother B+, it didn't remove details when I tried it .. over and over. Haven't bothered since so there's a few apiaries that still show up on records.

 

[mintmoth]

This looks useful, perhaps too clever for me.

10km radius = 314.159 km² or 77630.325 acres. When you put it that way 37 apiaries doesn't sound a lot.. . . . Ben

It's positively sparse! But then, so much of Lincs looks like prairie now, vast flat fields, no hedging.....

Of course it could just be that Lincolnshire beeks are incredibly secretive....

 

[Madge]

Don't bother B+, it didn't remove details when I tried it .. over and over. Haven't bothered since so there's a few apiaries that still show up on records.

Ha! Not believing you, I've just tried it with an empty summer apiary, and you're right. It told me 'That apiary can't be deleted'. It used to work ...

Kitta

 

[Swarm]

Ha! Not believing you, I've just tried it with an empty summer apiary, and you're right. It told me 'That apiary can't be deleted'. It used to work ...

Kitta

 

[B+.]

I've just tried it with an empty summer apiary, and you're right. It told me 'That apiary can't be deleted'.

Wait....so you added more rubbish to the database?

 

[Parsonage Bees]

It's positively sparse! But then, so much of Lincs looks like prairie now, vast flat fields, no hedging.....

Of course it could just be that Lincolnshire beeks are incredibly secretive....

Gardens, other people's gardens I'm afraid, are a major resource for my bees if there is no OSR nearby. Though last year a small field of beans was very popular. Pollen like mushy peas.

From responses above you can be secretive but other beeks will 'rat' on you to the bee inspector. I can understand why people buy camouflage bee suits.

. . . . Ben

 

[B+.]

I can understand why people buy camouflage

I wouldn't advise it Ben.
I had a couple of visitors to one of my apiaries about 2 years ago. The husband of the lady visitor had one of those suits while both of us had BBWear suits. The bees were ignoring us but stinging the black areas around the hood of his veil. It was one of those "ah ha" moments for me when you see something so noticeable, the bees just didn't like black

 

[alldigging]

Ha! Not believing you, I've just tried it with an empty summer apiary, and you're right. It told me 'That apiary can't be deleted'. It used to work ...

Kitta

Has someone messed NBU to tell them?

 

[Parsonage Bees]

I wouldn't advise it Ben.
I had a couple of visitors to one of my apiaries about 2 years ago. The husband of the lady visitor had one of those suits while both of us had BBWear suits. The bees were ignoring us but stinging the black areas around the hood of his veil. It was one of those "ah ha" moments for me when you see something so noticeable, the bees just didn't like black

After all the centuries of breeding (and the fact we exterminated the last bear 100s of years ago) they obviously still remember the threat from large dark coloured mammals. It's a good job they've never come across a polar bear.

. . . . Ben