Heroes

[Karol]

There are heroes and then there's the volunteers at BD Clean:

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...oQFnoECBIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3-qDXWY2TseSjjXAUYBGD_

 

[Erichalfbee]

Rachel Reeves should watch that as she steals water companies' clean up funds to subsume them into her waste programme

 

[Macbear]

I worry that those working with minimal/no protection in the project will catch some horrible disease/illness. The longer term intention of persuading folks to use dustbins should certainly help IF the contents can be disposed of regularly and responsibly.

 

[Anduril]

Reminds me of a lecture I went to by Professor Les Baillie of Cardiff University, one of his photos showed him dressed in bin liners as protection when dealing with anthrax in the ground, while others wore bio suits.

 

[Penninetrader]

Wear a mask when you stand up

 

[Gilberdyke John]

There are heroes and then there's the volunteers at BD Clean:

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3jC2s-8kSo&vl=en&ved=2ahUKEwjayrKwh4WLAxUQTkEAHf74EWoQFnoECBIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3-qDXWY2TseSjjXAUYBGD_

Every piece of that tossed away somewhere upstream. We had a KEEP BRITAIN TIDY campaign a while ago. (Actually we're overdue another one) But Bangladesh certainly needs one (and keep it running).

 

[Penninetrader]

Every piece of that tossed away somewhere upstream. We had a KEEP BRITAIN TIDY campaign a while ago. (Actually we're overdue another one) But Bangladesh certainly needs one (and keep it running).

Possibly, as for the keep Britain tidy, it needs to be a mentality and one that comes from the top which is most definitely not the case now. There is no pride, period, in our dear leaders. All we have is agendas and greed. Latest gov reaction from Rachel of Thieves in regards water companies and pollution a perfect example.

 

[alancooper]

Possibly, as for the keep Britain tidy, it needs to be a mentality and one that comes from the top which is most definitely not the case now. There is no pride, period, in our dear leaders. All we have is agendas and greed. Latest gov reaction from Rachel of Thieves in regards water companies and pollution a perfect example.

 

[alancooper]

During my professional life I was aware of the amount of discarded feed and pest control chemical containers in the rural and upland countryside. You might be surprised at how much. Part of the “litter” issue?

 

[Penninetrader]

During my professional life I was aware of the amount of discarded feed and pest control chemical containers in the rural and upland countryside. You might be surprised at how much. Part of the “litter” issue?

It is clear to me that the number 1 problem in our climate and environment is pollution not co2, there is no money or profit in cleaning up the world only cost whereas the totally fraudulent net zero nonsense is profitable beyond imagining. Unfortunately those supporting the nonsense probably do so in the belief it will lead to a cleaner environment. Our water Co's and the governments lack of enforcing rules is but one very good example of my position. People need to separate the two issues in their minds at which point they will realize they are being cheated by very clever frauds.

 

[Macbear]

It is clear to me that the number 1 problem in our climate and environment is pollution not co2, there is no money or profit in cleaning up the world only cost whereas the totally fraudulent net zero nonsense is profitable beyond imagining. Unfortunately those supporting the nonsense probably do so in the belief it will lead to a cleaner environment. Our water Co's and the governments lack of enforcing rules is but one very good example of my position. People need to separate the two issues in their minds at which point they will realize they are being cheated by very clever frauds.

Maybe governments are most of the problem. I heard an observation that Westminster governments are not always interested in projects that will not be pretty well completed before the next GE. However, other grandiose projects which may take longer can be started in the knowledge that if they are white elephants it is likely that they won't be re-elected and have to face the music. It's all playing to the gallery.

Pollution is certainly a massive issue, but after privatising water governments have failed to protect customers and the public, instead they allow foreign "investors" the freedom to run up huge debts often to pay out dividends to themselves. Not a lot of priority for investing in infrastructure [especially evident with Thames and Southern - oh is it coincidence that many of the same faces have been meddling with both?]

 

[pargyle]

There is an element of our society that seems to think that it is acceptable to leave their litter anywhere they have finished with it. We have lovely walks around us where we walk the dog - forestry commission land, local walks on council owned land - all have empty drink cans, fast food wrappers, dog poo (some bagged up and just left behind) littering the paths. Town pavements are not a lot better. It's not as though there is any shortage of litter bins ... I fail to see the logic of leaving a bit of rubbish on the ground when 10 feet away there is a litter bin. Drive along any main road and look at the rubbish on the verges and central reservation - there's only one way it has got there - people who just feel it's acceptable to hur it out of the car.

We are nowhere near the level of pollution and littering seen in Bangladesh but .... littering of any sort should be punished by a month or two of enforced litter picking. The culprits should be made to clear up the mess and perhaps they would then understand how anti-social it is.

 

[Gilberdyke John]

Maybe governments are most of the problem. I heard an observation that Westminster governments are not always interested in projects that will not be pretty well completed before the next GE. However, other grandiose projects which may take longer can be started in the knowledge that if they are white elephants it is likely that they won't be re-elected and have to face the music. It's all playing to the gallery.

Pollution is certainly a massive issue, but after privatising water governments have failed to protect customers and the public, instead they allow foreign "investors" the freedom to run up huge debts often to pay out dividends to themselves. Not a lot of priority for investing in infrastructure [especially evident with Thames and Southern - oh is it coincidence that many of the same faces have been meddling with both?]

There are some public services which should have remained in public ownership because of the national interest. Inefficiency was rife but real management talent could have dealt with that. Water, Sewage, Health, Fuel and Power are things which are essential to life. Health unfortunately has too much vulnerability to exploitation but I can't offhand suggest how to avoid this. Secondary services such as travel are important but in themselves create a self perpetuating raison d etre. "Convenient" trains encourage living at a distance from employment whereas in earlier years towns and villages local to jobs were the norm. No travel costs. No clogged roads etc. It's not an easy situation to resolve.

 

[Penninetrader]

AS for rubbish in those lovely and accessible areas, I pondered on that and in combination with an observation I coined a phrase, a phrase I quote then go on to explain it's origin. I have not so far come across anyone who contradicts my reasoning. My phrase being "the arsehole distance" that is the distance beyond which litter no longer occurs, for example 100yds off the beaten path, those who would litter are usually too lazy to travel under their own steam any more than a few yards into a wilderness.Once beyond the "arsehole distance" one can enjoy the joys of nature

 

[Macbear]

On a slightly lighter note: the disgusting practice of some road users of urinating into bottles which they discard onto the roadside takes a new twist with this report: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20g1exx3xko . [I'm unsure that the intended hyper link works]. Maybe the consequences of such actions are not easy to anticipate!

 

[Garry R]

A few of our incarcerated criminals should be put to work on this type of thing. At least there would be a contribution to society and work conditions would be a great deal better than we witness in the video,

 

[Macbear]

A few of our incarcerated criminals should be put to work on this type of thing. At least there would be a contribution to society and work conditions would be a great deal better than we witness in the video,

Reminds me of the Sam Cooke song Chain Gang.
I agree with you, Garry. Prison seems to do little to give inmates opportunities to develop healthy attitudes, learn skills or make a positive contribution. Given the amount of litter it would hardly take away work from paid authority employees either.

 

[rossbyjove]

AS for rubbish in those lovely and accessible areas, I pondered on that and in combination with an observation I coined a phrase, a phrase I quote then go on to explain it's origin. I have not so far come across anyone who contradicts my reasoning. My phrase being "the arsehole distance" that is the distance beyond which litter no longer occurs, for example 100yds off the beaten path, those who would litter are usually too lazy to travel under their own steam any more than a few yards into a wilderness.Once beyond the "arsehole distance" one can enjoy the joys of nature

No such thing these days as arsehole distance.
They drive to their 'drive thru' and then drive down country lanes at great speed and throw their rubbish out of the window.
Country lanes nowadays are littered with discarded Mc Ds packaging !

 

[Penninetrader]

No such thing these days as arsehole distance.
They drive to their 'drive thru' and then drive down country lanes at great speed and throw their rubbish out of the window.
Country lanes nowadays are littered with discarded Mc Ds packaging !

I think you have completely missed my point with respect, possibly a re read is in order. You have just described exactly how these people only dispose rubbish at the arsehole distance, once again, it is where no effort is expended. To exit the car and walk some distance is the dividing factor. If I might add to this, I always make another comment when picking up another specific piece of rubbish, namely energy drinks cans, they seem to be the most prevalent and clearly they do not work as they do not even have the chaffing energy to walk to a bin and dispose.

 

[Penninetrader]

As a possibly final remark, how many who complain about rubbish in their patch actually make any effort to collect and dispose of it, or do you feel it is only the responsibility of the council and walk on by ? I daily pick up rubbish and sometimes a passer by will make the comment "that's the councils job" .what they are really saying is that they have no intention of helping take care of their own country, another lazy excuse ridden group.