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Had posted this in Beginners section but think it is a better fitt for this section. Help Gratefully accepted . Thanks !!
The short of it ( sorry but as short as I can make it giving as much as I see relevant info )
4 colonies
2 in each out apiary , approx 3 miles apart
Apiary 1
Full hive ( with part filled super ) bought ( as full hive for particular reason to repay landowner with honey for getting excellent apiary site )and opened end June for 1st inspection 5 days after purchase , charged/sealed q.cell, found queen AS them , put 3 frames with queen into new poly Nuc box STUPIDLY managed to leave 1 frame foundation frame out of Nuc box, problem 1 ( more later ).
Other bought Nuc, going great in cedar hive, inspected yesterday, Beautifull full brood frames and queen spotted and new eggs spotted. On and drawn down 8 of 12 frames in Brood box. So going well.
Other Apiary
Nuc box from main hive split as detailed above, when I checked Nuc after return from Hols discovered my mistake , Beautifull brace/wild comb built in void where frame 6 should have been, even worse , built hanging from Perspex cover under lid so can't remove Perspex cover without collapsing it ?
Other hive, had been producing q. Cells in large nos for weeks up until last inspection on 12th July before I went on Hols ( 2 weeks ) , broke down all leaving 2 charged q. Cells, put super on as were strong, inspected yesterday, went ballistic when opened, a new experience, 15 plus stings to gauntlet in seconds, again stupid mistake as smoker died, closed up immediately, did not get to ascertain whether brood/ queen present
Best overall course of action ? Any sound advice MUCH appreciated ?
Thanks
Brian
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Queen Bee
Other apiary, other hive has predictably swarmed while you were on holiday. Will now have a new queen most likely. Hardly long enough to be laying? (Draw a time line?).
Practise keeping your smoker alight - and I daresay you knew it was going out before you opened the hive, so you may learn from it. Not a mistake I suggest; some other reason, like you didn't think....
Get the nuc comb sorted. It will not get any better on its own.
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Old Yesterday, 11:24 PM #3
BrianO
Good advice, but if you can give more would appreciate, if not Thanks anyway
Partially Correct ?? No didnt know it was going out, just hadnt made sure properly ignited and strong burn to cover inspection time.In reality was rushed as second apiary inspection and had not made sure fully lit before inspection, so my bad, ( if it is that bad ??)
But that is not the important issue, what is important for me to get my head around us a overall plan to result in strongest colonies
My thoughts were to MAYBE unite Apiary 1 full hive and Apiary 1 strong cedar hived Nuc ??
Apiary 2 Nuc do I need to hive them in new hive and what do I do with the brace/wild comb ?
Thanks
Brian
The short of it ( sorry but as short as I can make it giving as much as I see relevant info )
4 colonies
2 in each out apiary , approx 3 miles apart
Apiary 1
Full hive ( with part filled super ) bought ( as full hive for particular reason to repay landowner with honey for getting excellent apiary site )and opened end June for 1st inspection 5 days after purchase , charged/sealed q.cell, found queen AS them , put 3 frames with queen into new poly Nuc box STUPIDLY managed to leave 1 frame foundation frame out of Nuc box, problem 1 ( more later ).
Other bought Nuc, going great in cedar hive, inspected yesterday, Beautifull full brood frames and queen spotted and new eggs spotted. On and drawn down 8 of 12 frames in Brood box. So going well.
Other Apiary
Nuc box from main hive split as detailed above, when I checked Nuc after return from Hols discovered my mistake , Beautifull brace/wild comb built in void where frame 6 should have been, even worse , built hanging from Perspex cover under lid so can't remove Perspex cover without collapsing it ?
Other hive, had been producing q. Cells in large nos for weeks up until last inspection on 12th July before I went on Hols ( 2 weeks ) , broke down all leaving 2 charged q. Cells, put super on as were strong, inspected yesterday, went ballistic when opened, a new experience, 15 plus stings to gauntlet in seconds, again stupid mistake as smoker died, closed up immediately, did not get to ascertain whether brood/ queen present
Best overall course of action ? Any sound advice MUCH appreciated ?
Thanks
Brian
oliver90owner
Queen Bee
Other apiary, other hive has predictably swarmed while you were on holiday. Will now have a new queen most likely. Hardly long enough to be laying? (Draw a time line?).
Practise keeping your smoker alight - and I daresay you knew it was going out before you opened the hive, so you may learn from it. Not a mistake I suggest; some other reason, like you didn't think....
Get the nuc comb sorted. It will not get any better on its own.
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Old Yesterday, 11:24 PM #3
BrianO
Good advice, but if you can give more would appreciate, if not Thanks anyway
.and I daresay you knew it was going out before you opened the hive Not a mistake I suggest; some other reason, like you didn't think...
Partially Correct ?? No didnt know it was going out, just hadnt made sure properly ignited and strong burn to cover inspection time.In reality was rushed as second apiary inspection and had not made sure fully lit before inspection, so my bad, ( if it is that bad ??)
But that is not the important issue, what is important for me to get my head around us a overall plan to result in strongest colonies
My thoughts were to MAYBE unite Apiary 1 full hive and Apiary 1 strong cedar hived Nuc ??
Apiary 2 Nuc do I need to hive them in new hive and what do I do with the brace/wild comb ?
Thanks
Brian
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