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I was asked the other day about GM crops and any possible problems with bees or honey.
I know absolutely nothing about it so i am looking for someone to enlighten me.
It seems that some farmers will be having these crops very soon.
 
This thread promises to be as controversial as hive tapping and matchsticks. Personally I believe GM crops could bring mankind, and maybe beekind, great benefits.
 
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I was asked the other day about GM crops and any possible problems with bees or honey.
I know absolutely nothing about it so i am looking for someone to enlighten me.

Pandora's box, no one knows what the consequences may be.
It seems that some farmers will be having these crops very soon.

Not in my back yard :nono:
 
damn i only asked because the farmer i was talking to says the government have started pushing some gm crops into the seed market.


please delete it if it is going to cause too much stress HM
 
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There is no risk to bees or honey, I wouldn't worry.
 
would labels on honey jars have to be altered to say something about Gm crops if they were planted in the forage area ?
 
Genetically modified
not for me, leave nature the way it was intended, Messing around with things they have no little about. Nothing wrong with the world just some idiots who live in it. I'll stop myself there.
 
There is no risk to bees or honey, I wouldn't worry.

that sounds like a statement! Has 'sufficient' data been collected on the subject?


... also sounds like a similar statement I heard regarding neonicotinoids.

This thread needs to go straight to the 'political issues section'... do not pass go.
 
would labels on honey jars have to be altered to say something about Gm crops if they were planted in the forage area ?

This would be the most immediate implication.

There is no risk to bees or honey, I wouldn't worry.

I had no idea we had a World authority on synargistic relationships between deliberately genome altered plants and their subsequently altered pollen and nectar and the multitude of creatures which may be affected by said.
What a sigh of relief ! NOT !
 
Way way too late for that, by several thousand years.

Ha yes Farming but GM is a totally different kettle of fish and has only been around for 14 years and I would consider this too short a period for a trial period, try the life span of a human to get a clear picture
 
Ha yes Farming but GM is a totally different kettle of fish and has only been around for 14 years and I would consider this too short a period for a trial period, try the life span of a human to get a clear picture

I was simply responding to your ...leave nature as it was intended, not just farming, many other things, for example dogs were descended from wolves, etc, type of thing.
 
many other things, for example dogs were descended from wolves, etc, type of thing.

I think my dog was descended from sheep (a Bedlington terrier.. rough cut! (no topknot!))
... not my fault! the wife likes them because they are good with children and do not moult.
 
Domesticated dog has been around for 33,000 years and remains found in the Altai Mountains
 
Domesticated dog has been around for 33,000 years and remains found in the Altai Mountains

Like i said, bit too late by several thousand years, to leave nature as it was intended. Much the same with corn and many other crops/plants as well... its all been fiddled with in some way or other by man.
 
Ha yes Farming but GM is a totally different kettle of fish and has only been around for 14 years and I would consider this too short a period for a trial period, try the life span of a human to get a clear picture

I guess it is 'how' the plants are modified is the 64million dollar question.

Whilst at college I learnt about triploid trout, which are 'technically' GM sterile trout.
A whole bunch of these escaped in the New York basin and decimated the local wildlife as because they did not breed, they put their entire lifetime focus into growing which dominated their rivals and ate everything. They also turned out to have much longer lifespans.
I learnt this in the '80's, but did not stay in touch with the subject. The moral is unexpected consequences.

Unless these GM plants are clones and sterile, and do not have any form of pesticide, then by their nature, must be a threat.
'if' the worry is bees pollinating these sterile plants, then they must have a reason for visiting, which may result in spreading plant material to other species.
Then there is the guarantee of the plant not having a faulty gene?

All clever stuff, but playing with fire in my opinion with a subject we are still learning about.
 

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