Dog Poos ..

[Erichalfbee]

Thank heavens you can train cats to use the loo!

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Thank heavens you can train cats to use the loo!

yes - but just like women - the buggers don't put the seat back up afterwards

 

[Erichalfbee]

yes - but just like women - the buggers don't put the seat back up afterwards

No you train them to close the lid before flushing.

 

[pargyle]

I think our daxies are getting a bit fed up with the attention they're getting today when going about their 'business'
So far today I can confirm that Twts has been peeing or curling one down in a mainly Nor East by South direction, Libby invariably faces East although once this morning she started pooing facing South but then changed direction to East to pinch it off.

Might be a slight surefeit of detail there JBM ... what have I started ? The worry now is that, being sans dog at present, I may get arrested for voyeurism of other people's pooches ....

 

[understanding_bees]

Easier still is to watch which way water spins as it goes down the plughole.

NO ITS NOT!!!
I find it interesting to read humorous bits and pieces from time to time, but some of the comments on this thread are, quite simply, ridiculous - worthy of ridicule.
If someone asks a question, do they want an answer, or do they want fluff?
By now, anyone who has been a regular reader of this forum will know that I am a keen seeker for knowledge and understanding. I have tried to be helpful with my responses, where serious questions have been asked. I know that there can be very valid reasons why people may sometimes have a strong preference for one approach or another. This is what happens when different environments have an impact on discerning which is the better approach to follow.
Things like, "When should I feed my bees?" Or "Should I feed syrup or fondant?" These are subjective questions which can have different answers depending on a whole range of other circumstances.
But there are other things which are not subjective at all. At what temperature does water freeze? At what temperature does it boil? These are things which we cannot change.
And then there are things like the Coriolis force. I know that things like the freezing point, or the boiling point of water are of fundamental interest and importance. Perhaps the Coriolis force does not have quite the same fundamental interest for most of us, but is real, none the less.

And now, just to answer the question, about which way the water spins as it goes down the plughole - the Coriolis force is comparatively weak, especially when observed in small-scale situations. The Coriolis force is very real, and can be observed easily in things like low pressure atmospheric events. But it is not so easy to observe at the bathtub plughole because even the smallest amount of turbulence which you may have created in the water, either before or after you pulled the plug, can easily over-ride a predicted result.

 

[Beernie]

Just to add my 2p worth - i first read online the info about preferences for facing north when pooing a week or so ago and decided to check it on our walks. My dog does not circle but she always gives me a hard stare as she is pooing. The first time I observed her alignment it was actually north with her nose facing the bridges over to Fife that we see from up on our hill. ( usually through rain and fog) so i got quite excited. However every time since then she has chosen just about every direction on the compass & inbetween. So from my observation my dog doesn’t give two hoots about magnetic fields , just like she doesn’t care if what she is eating is actually edible or non-organic.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

even the smallest amount of turbulence which you may have created in the water, either before or after you pulled the plug, can easily over-ride a predicted result.

And it also depends on how quickly you spin the bathtub around before emptying it.

 

[BeeGiner]

NO ITS NOT!!!
I find it interesting to read humorous bits and pieces from time to time, but some of the comments on this thread are, quite simply, ridiculous - worthy of ridicule.
If someone asks a question, do they want an answer, or do they want fluff?
By now, anyone who has been a regular reader of this forum will know that I am a keen seeker for knowledge and understanding. I have tried to be helpful with my responses, where serious questions have been asked. I know that there can be very valid reasons why people may sometimes have a strong preference for one approach or another. This is what happens when different environments have an impact on discerning which is the better approach to follow.
Things like, "When should I feed my bees?" Or "Should I feed syrup or fondant?" These are subjective questions which can have different answers depending on a whole range of other circumstances.
But there are other things which are not subjective at all. At what temperature does water freeze? At what temperature does it boil? These are things which we cannot change.
And then there are things like the Coriolis force. I know that things like the freezing point, or the boiling point of water are of fundamental interest and importance. Perhaps the Coriolis force does not have quite the same fundamental interest for most of us, but is real, none the less.

And now, just to answer the question, about which way the water spins as it goes down the plughole - the Coriolis force is comparatively weak, especially when observed in small-scale situations. The Coriolis force is very real, and can be observed easily in things like low pressure atmospheric events. But it is not so easy to observe at the bathtub plughole because even the smallest amount of turbulence which you may have created in the water, either before or after you pulled the plug, can easily over-ride a predicted result.

Ooh la la! I think you need to get out more understanding_bees. Yes, you can spin the water in the other direction but the Coriolis Force will always tend to slow and then reverse it. Try it yourself before “going off on one”
And yes the effect is reversed as soon as you are the other side of the earths celestial equator.

 

[gmonag]

For completeness, the Coriolis effect is zero at the equator and at max at the poles. You will not see a difference moving a few miles either side of the equator.

 

[understanding_bees]

Yes, you can spin the water in the other direction but the Coriolis Force will always tend to slow and then reverse it.

Really??

 

[BeeGiner]

Yes, Really. Try a bit of practical science before lecturing others

 

[pargyle]

Yes, Really. Try a bit of practical science before lecturing others

Yes ... bit like contemplating your navel or watching paint dry ....

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

some of the comments on this thread are, quite simply, ridiculous - worthy of ridicule.

Stop making them then - on here and elsewhere.

And now, just to answer the question, about which way the water spins as it goes down the plughole - the Coriolis force is comparatively weak, especially when observed in small-scale situations. The Coriolis force is very real, and can be observed easily in things like low pressure atmospheric events. But it is not so easy to observe at the bathtub plughole because even the smallest amount of turbulence which you may have created in the water, either before or after you pulled the plug, can easily over-ride a predicted result.

Absolute rubbish, just another of the statements you make which are beyond ridicule.
The water moving down the plughole in the opposite direction phenomenon dawned on me during my first visit to sub saharan Africa.For the three months I stayed at London (Pitseng) I had my own self catering chalet at The Aloes guest complex. Most days I had hot and cold running water and it amused me, each time I showered, washed the dishes or whatever to watch the water go down the plughole the 'wrong' way even when the water was 'disturbed' (which happened often when I wrung my undercrackers dry before putting them on the washing line) it still flowed anti clockwise.

 

[gmonag]

Stop making them then - on here and elsewhere.

Absolute rubbish, just another of the statements you make which are beyond ridicule.
The water moving down the plughole in the opposite direction phenomenon dawned on me during my first visit to sub saharan Africa.For the three months I stayed at London (Pitseng) I had my own self catering chalet at The Aloes guest complex. Most days I had hot and cold running water and it amused me, each time I showered, washed the dishes or whatever to watch the water go down the plughole the 'wrong' way even when the water was 'disturbed' (which happened often when I wrung my undercrackers dry before putting them on the washing line) it still flowed anti clockwise.

Well, ignoring the inflammatory and unnecessary insulting remarks, I'm not sure what you mean.

Are you saying that the Coriolis effect does not exist, or that it doesn't exist in Pitseng, or that you observed local effects in the sink overiding Coriolis force?

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Are you saying that the Coriolis effect does not exist, or that it doesn't exist in Pitseng, or that you observed local effects in the sink overiding Coriolis force?

Pitseng is Southern hemishphere so the water goes down the sink the opposite way as it does here. If you'd have read my post properly you would have realised that what I was saying is that the coriolis force does exist and that it takes more than a slight disturbance to 'change' it.

 

[gmonag]

I did read your post properly. In the southern hemisphere (e.g. Pitseng) the flow in a sink is clockwise, due to Coriolis, not anti-clockwise as you stated.

 

[Apple]

I did read your post properly. In the southern hemisphere (e.g. Pitseng) the flow in a sink is clockwise, due to Coriolis, not anti-clockwise as you stated.

Coriolis effect
/ˌkɒrɪˈəʊlɪs/

noun
Physics
noun: Coriolis effect; noun: Coriolis force; plural noun: Coriolis forces

1. an effect whereby a mass moving in a rotating system experiences a force (the Coriolis force ) acting perpendicular to the direction of motion and to the axis of rotation. On the earth, the effect tends to deflect moving objects to the right in the northern hemisphere and to the left in the southern and is important in the formation of cyclonic weather systems.

QED

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I did read your post properly. In the southern hemisphere (e.g. Pitseng) the flow in a sink is clockwise, due to Coriolis, not anti-clockwise as you stated.

No you didn't - in your haste to find fault you assumed some thing I didn't say - what I said in my first line, was the water flowed 'the wrong way' there (which to me means the opposite to what it does in the UK) nowhere did I mention clockwise or counter clockwise

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

And an interesting fact (as we are talking about direction of spin)
The national plant of Lesotho is the spiral aloe and there are male and female genders of the plant -
In the male the leaves spiral in a clockwise direction and the female leaves anto clockwise

 

[Apple]

Coriolis effect
/ˌkɒrɪˈəʊlɪs/

noun
Physics
noun: Coriolis effect; noun: Coriolis force; plural noun: Coriolis forces

1. an effect whereby a mass moving in a rotating system experiences a force (the Coriolis force ) acting perpendicular to the direction of motion and to the axis of rotation. On the earth, the effect tends to deflect moving objects to the right in the northern hemisphere and to the left in the southern and is important in the formation of cyclonic weather systems.

QED

MUST be so Bart says so!