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I notice you were going to buy 25 hives of bees back in 2012, and make some hives. Best to get some experience first.

http://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=21763

LOL, yeah that wee plan went out the window, life threw up a few problems last year. I had to upgrade my percolation area in my site last jan and not just that, bills hanging out of my ears. Ill be defo getting started in 2013 though one way or another. Ill have the money for x amount but will start of small like im been advised on here.
 
You're a hero, keep in touch and let me know how you get on!
E

I will be keeping everyone upto date with my hives. Ill be building them at end of jan sometime. Hoping to get the bees when spring arrives and then all steam ahead :sunning:
 
I will be keeping everyone upto date with my hives. Ill be building them at end of jan sometime.

If you make as good a job of them as you do your boat building, i am sure they will be excellent beehives.
 
If you make as good a job of them as you do your boat building, i am sure they will be excellent beehives.

:iagree: ;)

good of you to remember that to ;) HAve only been out on the boat a few times this year thou :( .


Heres me just a few weeks ago on it, love the picture!


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Looks like bliss!
 
Looks like bliss!

Nice sunny day it was and was quite warm for early November. Caught a few pike but was hoping for a wee sneaky salmon returning home but didnt see any :(
 
Nice sunny day it was and was quite warm for early November. Caught a few pike but was hoping for a wee sneaky salmon returning home but didnt see any :(

Looks like you were using a spinner, i also like a spot of fishing when i get chance, fly fishing in rivers or reservoirs for trout is my real favorite, but also enjoy coarse fishing, sea fishing, from boat or beach... sons have been catching a lot of nice sized cod here this last week, and netted some nice herrings last weekend.
 
Meanwhile, Back on Topic

I made two hives out of exterior grade plywood last winter and populated one in June with a swarm. The problem with plywood is it's very heavy. Pine, if you've got good woodworking skills, might be a better option.

Put a lot of thought into what type of hive to start with because it's very expensive to change some way down the track - say, in three years time. Also, investigate beespace and whether you think you should have top beespace of bottom beespace. I went for top beespace because I was advised that you tend to crush less bees during inspections with top beespace.

One essential you need to factor in is the inordinate number of frames and quantities of foundation you will need for brood boxes and supers. Most of that will have to be purchased - to the inexperienced beekeeper, frames and foundation are very tricky to make. If you expect the bees to make all of your wax, you lose out on honey while they're doing it!

If you read some of the other threads on this forum, you will see that many advocate insulating your hives, so if you end up making your own hives, try to incorporate insulation into the design in some way.

You will probably need somewhere to store your "gear" - spare boxes, supers, crown boards, roofs, insulators, unmade frames, wax, etc. This storage should be bee-proof and mouse-proof.

CVB
 
Ill be building my own hives come jan/feb and also will be buying all my equipment but dont know exactly what ill need and how much it will be.

I want to use this thread for a checklist of what ill need before i collect my bees when the time comes.

I know ill need a suit (or2), a smoker,gloves. Mind is blank for now about what else ill need lol


A good book or 2, possibly a mentor, a local association, some beginner lessons, a lot of patience, senso of humour and some good fortune.
enjoy
:sunning:
 
I agree with Pete.
A course should be the first thing on your list.
 
I was thinking of using plywood for the hives, but I'm still in two minds, going by a few things I've read online. I might just use pine instead and see how I get on with it.

Well, as long as you make the plywood hives compatible with pine hives, I think you should go with what is cheapest/easiest to work with. You can always change to the other material next year if you want to.
 
Well, as long as you make the plywood hives compatible with pine hives, I think you should go with what is cheapest/easiest to work with. You can always change to the other material next year if you want to.

I have plywood 14 x 12 hives. At a show last year I heard a comment plywood is heavy. This may or may not be true but it's not a major consideration for my apiary. It has been commented plywood gives better resistance to woodpecker attack. Must work - I don’t see any holes in mine.
Certainly plywood is cheap at around 19 pounds for an 8ft x 4ft sheet of 18mm thick boilproof grade. A bit of work with a decent circular saw, some frame rails, screws adhesive, stain and yacht varnish and you have multiple hives.
 
It has been commented plywood gives better resistance to woodpecker attack.

Think we are safe enough here, we haven't had woodpeckers in Ireland since the 17th or 18th century though up to 80 breeding pairs have established on the east coast in the past few years. Their source has been confirmed by DNA analysis to be of british origin from several different locations. The east coast is reasonably well forested so it could take a while before they make their way west to me and the OP.
 
...up to 80 breeding pairs have established on the east coast in the past few years....
Are they not Great Spotted Woodpecker?, (Dendrocopos major). The species that can be a problem with hives is the Green Woodpecker (Picus viridis). Not in Ireland as far as I can read.

Even Green Woodpeckers are not a universal problem. There are some areas where they regularly attack hives in the depth of winter but others where there are many woodpeckers but no reported problems over many years.
 
Well, as long as you make the plywood hives compatible with pine hives, I think you should go with what is cheapest/easiest to work with. You can always change to the other material next year if you want to.

Can get that or pine board but teh pine board is only 1/2 inch if i remember correctly. Would be nice if it were 3/4

hey ye, nice photo and all the best with the hive making, where abouts are you from by the way?
Darren

Not to far from westport on the west coat, about 15mins away

I have plywood 14 x 12 hives. At a show last year I heard a comment plywood is heavy. This may or may not be true but it's not a major consideration for my apiary. It has been commented plywood gives better resistance to woodpecker attack. Must work - I don’t see any holes in mine.
Certainly plywood is cheap at around 19 pounds for an 8ft x 4ft sheet of 18mm thick boilproof grade. A bit of work with a decent circular saw, some frame rails, screws adhesive, stain and yacht varnish and you have multiple hives.


I can get pine board in 1/2 inch thick 8x4 sheets for 50 euro. I think ill manage a hive or 2 out of this. Ill check to see if they have 3/4 because would probably be alot better. THis pine board is all lamanated strips of pine, i think they are in 2x1/2 inch strips all glued together. Would this be ok.
 
I checked the measurements of the hardwood drawers i have there that i was thinking of making a hive out of. I have 3 of them and the measurements are 410mmx390mm sq and the height is, one is 185mm and the other 2 is 150mm. I think they will just about do.
 
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Can get that or pine board but teh pine board is only 1/2 inch if i remember correctly. Would be nice if it were 3/4



Not to far from westport on the west coat, about 15mins away




I can get pine board in 1/2 inch thick 8x4 sheets for 50 euro. I think ill manage a hive or 2 out of this. Ill check to see if they have 3/4 because would probably be alot better. THis pine board is all lamanated strips of pine, i think they are in 2x1/2 inch strips all glued together. Would this be ok.

Not sure if I am visualising the laminated boards you mention but could it be what we know as osb here I wonder? In any case I would be inclined to glue 1/4" thickening strips to top and bottom edges of the 1/2" thick boxes so the inter-box joints have adequate seating surface. This would also permit mixing in of commercially built hive parts.
 
Not sure if I am visualising the laminated boards you mention but could it be what we know as osb here I wonder? In any case I would be inclined to glue 1/4" thickening strips to top and bottom edges of the 1/2" thick boxes so the inter-box joints have adequate seating surface. This would also permit mixing in of commercially built hive parts.

No, not the osb boards. They are solid strips of pine that are 2x1/2inch thick all glued together. Just as i type this, they do sell them in 3/4 and even inch thick because i used it for the transom on my boat. Looking at the pic below, it looks liek its inch think. Ill have to double check when im out at teh boat again.


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