Bulk honey price –-london/south east

[VEG]

Maybe something to be brought up at association meetings

 

[Russel]

At that price you may as well buy it all off him unlabelled (ask for discount lol) and sell it on

Apparently a husband and wife team from your neck of the woods and yes it's passed my mind.

The HC was for a Farmers market run by LA.

 

[VEG]

I think I may know who you are on about russell you have a pm

 

[Chris B]

selling £2.30 jarred & del'd, according to a shop owner that approached us at local market. Needless to say we won't/don't supply that shop.

Interesting. The £2.30 man obviously can't supply enough (hence the shopkeeper's approach for additional supply), a good indicator that both wholesale and retail price have been set too low. Let the shop exhaust this beekeeper's reserves and wait for them to call you. They'll have to or else lose custom.
(But if the cheap honey proves to be inexhaustible I'd buy a jar and send it off for testing. Probably free testing as it's supposedly Welsh and weren't Cardiff Uni. keen on analysing Welsh honey?)

 

[Russel]

At that price you may as well buy it all off him unlabelled (ask for discount lol) and sell it on

Interesting. The £2.30 man obviously can't supply enough (hence the shopkeeper's approach for additional supply), a good indicator that both wholesale and retail price have been set too low. Let the shop exhaust this beekeeper's reserves and wait for them to call you. They'll have to or else lose custom.
(But if the cheap honey proves to be inexhaustible I'd buy a jar and send it off for testing. Probably free testing as it's supposedly Welsh and weren't Cardiff Uni. keen on analysing Welsh honey?)

Chris, The "shop" asked our price and stated the buy for £2.30 del'd and sells for £5.
That ended conv but we will be attending the same FM later this month, lets see if they approach us again?

 

[VEG]

I wonder what his bulk price would be lol

 

[Russel]

I wonder what his bulk price would be lol

Should be sub £2lb jarring, travel, time, distance etc might be worth a punt.
Will be near the shop tomorrow, insurance job close buy. May call in an see what's left and how's on the label.
We do have one old hand around here that sells all is produce at £2lb in the tub to someone that does the indoor markets>

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Feel an interesting business proposition on the horizon Gegegega Granville (rubs hands with undisguised glee)

 

[johnandyrob]

I agree, and if it were barrel prices you would be doing quite well to get £2.30lb.

Is this for all types of honey or does the price change say for rape and heather

 

[Hivemaker.]

Is this for all types of honey or does the price change say for rape and heather

Heather sell for more.

 

[Finman]

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You live in UK but international prices affect on your market, up to Tamar Valley. Price leader is China as a biggest exporter.

USA prices 18.12.2013

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http://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/fvmhoney.pdf

PRICES IN VOLUMES OF 10,000 POUNDS OR GREATER UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED

Most prices 2 US $/pound = Br £ 1.2

Lowest prices from Vietnam and India 1.3 $ = Br £ 0.8 /pound

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[Russel]

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You live in UK but international prices affect on your market, up to Tamar Valley. Price leader is China as a biggest exporter.

USA prices 18.12.2013

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http://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/fvmhoney.pdf

PRICES IN VOLUMES OF 10,000 POUNDS OR GREATER UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED

Most prices 2 US $/pound = Br £ 1.2

Lowest prices from Vietnam and India 1.3 $ = Br £ 0.8 /pound

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AS most of us are amateur/part time bee keepers supplying local markets world pricing will not effect our prices, however there is a limit the market will pay.
Importers will hover be governed by world pricing however Chinese honey is/was banned in the UK, maybe the ban should extend next door too as they reputed to export more honey than they produce.
Maybe they've got some magic manuka beans, somebody remind us how much is produced?sold worldwide?

 

[Hivemaker.]

Chinese honey is/was banned in the UK,

Was, lots of it imported now again.

 

[Finman]

AS most of us are amateur/part time bee keepers supplying local markets world pricing will not effect our prices, however there is a limit the market will pay.
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You say that part time beekeepers set UK prices........no, don't dream.


Our "national honey" prices are in chopping centre are 12-17 euros/kg. Why, who knows.
Most of jars are foreign honey and sellers get better profit from foreign honey.
Cheapest honey was from Hungary 10 euros/kg. Acacia honey.

 

[Finman]

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More about markets

http://www.fintrac.com/cpanelx_pu/Ethiopia CIAFS/12_06_4949_CIAFS _1 Honey Final Oct 11.pdf

 

[Russel]

You say that part time beekeepers set UK prices........no, don't dream.


Our "national honey" prices are in chopping centre are 12-17 euros/kg. Why, who knows.
Most of jars are foreign honey and sellers get better profit from foreign honey.
Cheapest honey was from Hungary 10 euros/kg. Acacia honey.

No, that's not what I'm saying, I think you misunderstand.
Lets try again, the UK amateur/part time bee keeper set their prices according to the market we sell to. Most of "us" will not produce enough to meet our own requirements let alone be of interest/threat to the main players. We know if we sell to a reseller then they too will add their mark up which may well be 2 or 3 times what they paid us. Same as the Chinese honey coming into the Uk at £/€? will be inflated several times by the time it reaches the supermarket shelves.

 

[Finman]

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10 years ago we had douple store of honey and guys tried to export Finnish honey. But beekeepers did not sell it with that price. The price was 1.80 euros/kg.

One truck went to Germany. Germany buys pure fireweed honey and pure raspberry honey but not such, which has rape pollen in stuff.

 

[farbee]

One chap at work said to me this year; Have you sold that honey yet (offered to colleagues at £3.00 for (corrected 8oz not 12oz as originally posted hex jar)? I got mine from Lidl far cheaper.

I was please to tell him it had all gone and for a local premium product there is a premium price. What really gets me though is that he used to keep bees himself!!

So I guess this does show that internal prices/cheapest shop price does affect what we can sell for.

 

[victor meldrew]

Sour grapes?

VM


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[VEG]

One chap at work said to me this year; Have you sold that honey yet (offered to colleagues at £3.00 for 12oz hex jar)? I got mine from Lidl far cheaper.

I was please to tell him it had all gone and for a local premium product there is a premium price. What really gets me though is that he used to keep bees himself!!

So I guess this does show that internal prices/cheapest shop price does affect what we can sell for.

Some would think you were underpricing your honey selling it at that price to colleagues. By selling it cheaper they dont get any idea of the actual value of it.