Brood in the winter food super

[VixyB]

Hi,

Over the winter I left a super on one of my hives for food over the winter. I also fed them fondant when it was cold a few weeks ago but left the super in place.

On checking them now it is warmer, there is brood in the super.

Please can you tell me how I can rectify this?

Thank you!!!!!

 

[snelgrove]

just leave it as brood and a half, if it's British standard, that is national. Put first honey super above it

 

[Gilberdyke John]

Hi,

Over the winter I left a super on one of my hives for food over the winter. I also fed them fondant when it was cold a few weeks ago but left the super in place.

On checking them now it is warmer, there is brood in the super.

Please can you tell me how I can rectify this?

Thank you!!!!!

Ensure the queen is in the brood box, fit the queen excluder, allow the brood in the super frames to emerge and the super will be clear. If you intend to sell honey from that super later you may have to go through the frames and swap out any which have held brood and are discoloured. If you aren't squeamish you can consume honey from it yourself as Finman often tells us.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Ensure the queen is in the brood box, fit the queen excluder, allow the brood in the super frames to emerge and the super will be clear.

If you intend to sell honey from that super later you may have to go through the frames and swap out any which have held brood and are discoloured.

No you won't

 

[Erichalfbee]

No you won't

Brooded frames are fine to extract from.....just not crush and strain

 

[Gilberdyke John]

Brooded frames are fine to extract from.....just not crush and strain

I had it in mind that we had a thread when the honey regulations. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2015/1348/made were issued and Hivemaker commented on brood in comb.
I'm struggling to find the reference now so I'll simply say I wouldn't want to sell honey from comb which had held brood where defecation had taken place.

 

[VixyB]

Thanks everyone! I have that super as marked for the bees - so will put the QX in with the queen on the right side!!

 

[Erichalfbee]

I didn't mean extracting honey from frames with brood in them. YUK
The larva defaecates only once ......just before it pupates, thereby sealing the faeces between the pupal case and the cell wall, so it's sealed in.
Don't bees clean the cells before they put honey in them as well ?
Each to his own....I'm happy doing it and I'm sure it's not illegal.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I had it in mind that we had a thread when the honey regulations. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2015/1348/made were issued and Hivemaker commented on brood in comb.

The regulations apply to comb with brood present not comb that has held brood in the past.

Don't bees clean the cells before they put honey in them as well ?

Yes - spotlessly.

I wouldn't want to sell honey from comb which had held brood where defecation had taken place.

I'll take it off your hands if you want

 

[Binge]

Thanks everyone! I have that super as marked for the bees - so will put the QX in with the queen on the right side!!

Yep, that's what we did.
If you're likely to do the same each year then it really isn't a problem.
You can use the same frames for the bees' winter stores until it's time to change them.

 

[misterbee82]

Probably the best option, not disturbing their progress to make the colony better. Also any time their laying brood it's probably best not messing with it, unless their is a chance of a swarm and there are QC and your old queen is still doing a good job of laying and maintaining the colony population.

 

[Madge]

Ensure the queen is in the brood box, fit the queen excluder, allow the brood in the super frames to emerge and the super will be clear. ...

If there's already drone brood in there, then I'll add a shallow eke with an entrance to give the drones a way out of the hive. You can remove the eke once the brood had emerged.

 

[Zante]

What I would do (and might end up doing myself) is just leave the super on.

Put the queen excluder on the brood box after making sure the queen is downstairs and put the super back on. The bees will fill it with honey as usual. You then leave it on the hive as stores for the winter after removing the queen excluder.

This way you give them plenty of stores for winter, but still have only one box to inspect during the summer.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Probably the best option, not disturbing their progress to make the colony better. Also any time their laying brood it's probably best not messing with it, unless their is a chance of a swarm and there are QC and your old queen is still doing a good job of laying and maintaining the colony population.

Fifty five words - just to say nothing of use - well done

 

[maddydog]

Fifty five words - just to say nothing of use - well done

Ffs you made me count!!

Is it still a chat bot/fem bot/bot bot?? Or just weird??

 

[Erichalfbee]

Ffs you made me count!!

Is it still a chat bot/fem bot/bot bot?? Or just weird??

Crossed my mind too.......
Makes us pretty daft talking to a computer programme.......might be a real human being though

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Crossed my mind too.......
Makes us pretty daft talking to a computer programme.......might be a real human being though

If that's an example of 'artificial inteligence' it makes Terminator and millenium man look even more far fetched!!

 

[Madge]

Ffs you made me count!! ...

Really? Word by word?!
I'm sure Jenkins chose an easier route by just popping it into Word. Two clicks.

 

[maddydog]

Really? Word by word?!
I'm sure Jenkins chose an easier route by just popping it into Word. Two clicks.

Haha not with my laptop, by the time word opens I can easily count to 55

 

[Cussword]

Wouldn't a 'bot get they're, there, and their right? They were all over the place.