Bringing manuka honey home from NZ

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Gave you the information you wanted in posts 16 & 17, But then that's probably too early for you, seeing you feel the need to troll whenever you start a thread on here.
And yes i do have something against it - it's a big New Zealander con trick to sell the rubbish they can't sell at home over here - the pity is that there are some people who are stupid enough to waste their good money on the stuff.
You get it for nothing good for you - it's still highly overrated foul tasting sh!t though

 

[Little John]

???!!!!

It has, ever heard of hot toddies?

In the context of wound dressings ....

I wouldn't have thought there's many places on earth where it's beneficial qualities aren't known apart from some western suburbia.(Boston uk?)

Eh? I'm the sod who's been shouting it's praises, amongst the nay-sayers ... or haven't you been listening ?

This is the sort of thing I was referring to:

In 1989 an editorial in the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine (1) expressed the opinion: "The therapeutic potential of uncontaminated, pure honey is grossly underutilized. It is widely available in most communities and although the mechanism of action of several of its properties remains obscure and needs further investigation, the time has now come for conventional medicine to lift the blinds off this 'traditional remedy' and give it its due recognition."
http://www.drgrotte.com/honey-medicine.shtml

So in view of comments like the above, I stand by my own comment that "There certainly has to be some reason why honey has never caught on as a therapeutic agent ... (etc)", as we're not talking about 'Honey&Lemon' drinks for sore throats, but as far more substantial therapeutic agents.
LJ

 

[mbc]

Eh? I'm the sod who's been shouting it's praises, amongst the nay-sayers ... or haven't you been
LJ

My mistake, wasn't really paying attention, sorry.

 

[REDWOOD]

Lot's of needless remarks and some bordering on insulting to colour of hair and nationality.

As for man punker honey suck it and see but don't blame me if it puts you off honey for life and gives you a deli belly.

My daughter ate gallons of the stuff when she was in London, we still have a 10 year old jar in the cupboard that she's forget about since I have been keeping bees.

As for healing properties; some honeys are better than others and some honeys from Wales and probably most of the world are on par with Man pucker honey.

Cleaver marketing by NZ for a IMHO a foul tasting honey

 

[drstitson]

"bits of dead dried monkey"

not really go into solution/suspension though? would have to be more like chunk honey.

 

[mbc]

http://www.umf.org.nz/

It's a bit villageist to knock it just because it's foreign, I say fair play to the kiwis for fighting hard to maximise the profits of those working in the rural sector.

 

[Stiffy]

What a lot of nonsense this forum turns into during the winter: JBM and 'others' don't like Maunka honey and thinks its a con, fine, but the OP was asking about bringing some home, not if forum members like it or not.
Maybe as its now quiet we could have a Poll to decide if we like different honeys or even if we like or dislike Marmite, we could even expand it to a discussion on the medicinal merits of Marmite?

I like to taste honey from all around the world and Manuka is certainly not the worst I have tried, in fact the worst I believe was when an out-apiary of mine brought in a load of dandelion Yuk but some of my punters couldn't get enough of it.

Time to put this thread to bed me thinks?
S

Lot's of needless remarks and some bordering on insulting to colour of hair and nationality.

As for man punker honey suck it and see but don't blame me if it puts you off honey for life and gives you a deli belly.

My daughter ate gallons of the stuff when she was in London, we still have a 10 year old jar in the cupboard that she's forget about since I have been keeping bees.

As for healing properties; some honeys are better than others and some honeys from Wales and probably most of the world are on par with Man pucker honey.

Cleaver marketing by NZ for a IMHO a foul tasting honey

 

[BrianO]

Lot's of needless remarks and some bordering on insulting to colour of hair and nationality.

Agreed, reading through it once ( enough !! ) Some Terrible stuff, absolutely.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

So in view of comments like the above, I stand by my own comment that "There certainly has to be some reason why honey has never caught on as a therapeutic agent ... (etc)", as we're not talking about 'Honey&Lemon' drinks for sore throats, but as far more substantial therapeutic agents.
LJ

Not quite never caught on - a lot of study going on in Wales
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-28283972
and the rest of the UK (google Portobello honey) and a lot of NHS trusts are using honey (Manhooky and others) to combat MRSA - all these studies have one thing in common - it's used as a TOPICAL application not oral (you should maybe read some of my posts a tad more carefully)

 

[Jonathan]

If you'd take time to read the OP instead of jumping to conclusions then you'll understand your comment is nonsense. Nowhere in this thread was I looking to know if manuka honey is good to base my decision on getting some. Like I said before, go read OP!!

You are right - on this occasion anyway. Now you have your answers just get some and let this thread die. I am pretty sure, despite posts decrying this nasty stuff, that if hands are put on hearts nobody is really that bothered one way or another anyway.

 

[Fatbee]

Wouldn't life be boring if everybody liked the same thing. Manuka wouldn't be on the shelves if some people didn't like it. That's why we have consumer choice. I think Cravendale milk is a con but I don't belittle people who buy it.

Out of season on this forum it's like at the end of a flow - too many grumpy people keen to sting at the slightest provocation!

 

[Swarm]

Wouldn't life be boring if everybody liked the same thing. Manuka wouldn't be on the shelves if some people didn't like it. That's why we have consumer choice. I think Cravendale milk is a con but I don't belittle people who buy it.

Out of season on this forum it's like at the end of a flow - too many grumpy people keen to sting at the slightest provocation!

Not sure I agree, it's surprising what people will tolerate when they believe this stuff to be some sort of miracle. Many of these (IMO gullible fools) people consider local honey as 'just honey'.

 

[irishguy]

Not sure I agree, it's surprising what people will tolerate when they believe this stuff to be some sort of miracle. Many of these (IMO gullible fools) people consider local honey as 'just honey'.

So are you saying local honey spread over mrsa wounds would clear it just as good as manuka?

 

[REDWOOD]

I'm not telling you to do this (liability laws) but I always put a prop of honey on a cut before applying a plaster. I'm always amazed how quick it heals, ho and it tastes good too.

 

[irishguy]

I'm not telling you to do this (liability laws) but I always put a prop of honey on a cut before applying a plaster. I'm always amazed how quick it heals, ho and it tastes good too.

I know this but what about thoses super bugs, have you tried it or even heard of it clearing it.I haven't, all I've read about is manuka honey clearing them.
If English honey cleared these super infections, we'd have long heard about it. The English government are one of the biggest leeches on this planet and they'd be all over honey producers to gain more tax through honey sales in no time if your honey was as good as the NZ honey.

 

[REDWOOD]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/super-potent-honey-cures-mrsa-259962

notice the last two words...........found in all honey

 

[Margaret Elisabeth]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/super-potent-honey-cures-mrsa-259962

notice the last two words...........found in all honey

Sorry but the link took me to a load of badly written carp.
I am genuinely interested in possible antibacterial properties in anything at the moment particularly as my elder daughter has a nasty deep post op infection.
Any genuine study or trial info very welcome.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Sorry but the link took me to a load of badly written carp.
I am genuinely interested in possible antibacterial properties in anything at the moment particularly as my elder daughter has a nasty deep post op infection.
Any genuine study or trial info very welcome.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-19993283

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-20398515

 

[Margaret Elisabeth]

Thanks Jenkins, I had heard and read of the Welsh research. I was also asked earlier this year to give some honey to someone who was about to undergo an op. to build up her resistance to bacteria which of course. She did well after her op, but that doesn't really prove anything. I do know that honey was used on wounds right from ancient egyptian times. I will try to find stuff from medical journals. Thanks again.

 

[Swarm]

I know this but what about thoses super bugs, have you tried it or even heard of it clearing it.I haven't, all I've read about is manuka honey clearing them.
If English honey cleared these super infections, we'd have long heard about it. The English government are one of the biggest leeches on this planet and they'd be all over honey producers to gain more tax through honey sales in no time if your honey was as good as the NZ honey.

As I was saying earlier, for some reason the British public don't want to believe a natural, local product is just as beneficial as the stuff with a weird name from another country.

Maybe a bit loathed to admit they fell for it?

The Welsh study identified a couple of locations where the honey performed better than manuka against MRSA. The majority of honey samples were just as good as manuka at combatting MRSA.