Best way to split

[tom8400]

Evening all

Thinking of getting ready to do a split of my hive try and stop any swarming, the hive is doing extremely well lots of bees haven't looked in the brood yet for queen cells.

But I'm trying to plan ahead, So I have another national hive stood next to the original one ready with the 11frames of new foundation.

Which is the best way only the two novice books i have to hand here which are quite easy to follow have different methods I've got the haynes book and dk the bee book.

Perhaps someone could give me a idea as to which method to use

thanks

 

[Erichalfbee]

Evening all

Thinking of getting ready to do a split of my hive try and stop any swarming, the hive is doing extremely well lots of bees haven't looked in the brood yet for queen cells.

But I'm trying to plan ahead, So I have another national hive stood next to the original one ready with the 11frames of new foundation.

Which is the best way only the two novice books i have to hand here which are quite easy to follow have different methods I've got the haynes book and dk the bee book.

Perhaps someone could give me a idea as to which method to use

thanks

This is a good place to look. It has diagrams too. http://www.wbka.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Swarm-Control-Wally-Shaw.pdf

 

[drex]

Pick the one, where you understand why you are doing a certain manoeuvre, rather than just doing it because that is what the book said to do. Once confident with that, you can then play with the zillion different ways of swarm prevention

 

[enrico]

A split is not the same as an artificial swarm. A split is done before the swarming instinct has got a hold and as a way to increase stock and the AS is done once swarming is on the way. A split may not stop swarming. Nothing may stop swarming so always be prepared for it.
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[john t]

Evening all

Thinking of getting ready to do a split of my hive try and stop any swarming, the hive is doing extremely well lots of bees haven't looked in the brood yet for queen cells.

But I'm trying to plan ahead, So I have another national hive stood next to the original one ready with the 11frames of new foundation.

Which is the best way only the two novice books i have to hand here which are quite easy to follow have different methods I've got the haynes book and dk the bee book.

Perhaps someone could give me a idea as to which method to use

thanks

have you looked into using a Snelgrove board ?, its a great way do a split without loosing your honey crop

 

[Walrus]

Evening all

Thinking of getting ready to do a split of my hive try and stop any swarming, the hive is doing extremely well lots of bees haven't looked in the brood yet for queen cells.

thanks

Just wondered why you want to split a strong colony? Strong colony = honey! Honey is good

Swarm prevention (I always laugh a little inside when I say that) involves making sure they have space e.g. reverse the brood boxes, add more boxes etc.

 

[tom8400]

Morning all

Well that is very true walrus at the moment they are brood and half one nearly full super so i added another last saturday. my only reason for wanting to split is to increase i only have one hive and wanted another. I also thought if I split then hopefully it would slow any swarming plans

Thanks Tom

 

[SWEET]

About to split mine in the next few days , i'm keeping it simple and removing 3/4 frames of capped brood into a new hive and adding a new purchased queen and frame feeder . The BB is full of capped brood and there are plenty of bees in the super , i'll let you know how it goes.

Part of swarm control ( if thats possible ) and also to increase stock and as its a garden hive don't want to add an extra BB and create a monster hive.

When i do this next year ( out apiary ) , i'll add another BB , let them fill it , remove and let them create a new queen.

 

[Briarfield]

Split!!

Up here in the frozen North not a drone in sight. How will the new queen mate?


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