bee inspector

[peteinwilts]

'regular' people do not have 'dog-biting to burglar' insurance.

No, that's why they have to pay legal bills when someone sues them.

If your assertion is that you don't need insurance because "it'll never happen to me" then I think you may be missing the very point of insurance.
When you are the keeper of a potentially lethal animal the argument that you didn't want to pay the £20 a year insurance will look a little short-sighted if it all goes wrong.

wild animals i hasten to add!

is that £20 per hive!?!

My assertion is not that "it will not happen to me". If you REALLY wanted to, I am sure you can insure against everything including being killed by asteroid, being run over by a milkfloat and being attacked by a rabid guinea pig. The insurers are little different to bookmakers.

Everyones situation is different, and each person has to perform their own risk analysis.

tell me an animal that isn't potentially lethel. Yes i am being pedantic, but is all to do with risk evaluation.
I could go to extremes and get insured on everything, but I don't. I am sure you don't to.

I feel a poll coming...

 

[greatbritishhoney]

is that £20 per hive!?!


No, that's £20 BKA membership for one year which includes cover for (if I remember rightly) 3 hives for PLI, product liability and disease.
To add more hives costs aabout £1 per hive.

 

[Hivemaker.]

Technically I am sure I can get hauled to court if i go on holiday and a burglar eats some ham that is out of it's sell by date....

Oh dear.....so you have not even got an out of date ham insurance....very dodgy.

 

[tonybloke]

I wouldn't want to collect swarms without some basic Public Liability Insurance.

 

[BBG]

Technically I am sure I can get hauled to court if i go on holiday and a burglar eats some ham that is out of it's sell by date....

Oh dear.....so you have not even got an out of date ham insurance....very dodgy.

BUT

What if the burglar/stingee sues, is it not preferable to hand it over to cheap insurance and say: Down to you - he says it's my ham/bee that did the bad thing and you insured me against that (well not the bad ham, he hasn't got bad ham insurance so just the sting) you sort it out or pay up.

It's very cheap fo the amount of hives.

 

[peteinwilts]

is that £20 per hive!?!


No, that's £20 BKA membership for one year which includes cover for (if I remember rightly) 3 hives for PLI, product liability and disease.
To add more hives costs aabout £1 per hive.

http://www.thebka.co.uk/

Ideal for sorting out burglars!

 

[The Apprentices]

"On a closing note, they say that when we have laden fruit trees we are in for another cold winter, take a look at them this year, cooling I would bet on, snows not if its too cold."

agree - last autumn the hedgerows were bursting along my commute - inc. loads of apples i'd never noticed before.

perhaps the winter tyres won't be necessary this year.

http://adrianvance.blogspot.com/2011_05_01_archive.html?m=1

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

'regular' people do not have 'dog-biting to burglar' insurance.

has there been any court cases regarding theives being stung whilst stealing bee hives?

it sounds very much of insurance for insurance sake...

A few years ago i thwarted a burglar trying to enter though the bedroom balcony doors - he jumped off the balcony and scarpered - when the police came the copper pointed to the spiked railings in the front garden and said ' lucky he didn't fall on those or you really would have been in trouble' !! I thought it prudent not to mention the 12 bore shotgun I was loading at the time the burglar jumped
And no I don't have burglar being impaled on railings insurance (come to that - no 42 grams of no 1 shot in the backside insurance either)

 

[oliver90owner]

42 grams of no 1 shot

3" magnum load. Kept specifically for burglars or goose shoot? Bit OTT for close range work - be litle left of his backside inside 20m!!

RAB

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

2 3/4" standard load I use for foxes - burgals are only another type of vermin anyway!
Oh, and I always give them a head start to make the shot more sporting!!

 

[biggles]

223 with 55gr v max for fox and burglars. I give them both 200yrds

 

[drstitson]

"I always give them a head start to make the shot more sporting!!"

"I give them both 200yrds"

Both maybe more sporting but unfortunately in the eyes of the law that doesn't count and would lead to imprisonment.

However a close range frontal spur of the moment shot is apparently ok!!!

(although would likely lead to loss of licence due to having the item to hand rather than safely locked away).

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I heard that years ago in South Africa when the Boers had aparteid it was perfectly OK to shoot a burglar as long as he was on the premises - if it was in the back and outside you had to prove he was leaving the premises, I believe the trick was to shoot them with their feet inside the window and the body outside (saves on mess I suppose)

 

[drstitson]

interesting legal report in the times a week or two back - seems you are ok to pick up a knife if you are in the kitchen when disturbed BUT you can't go to the kitchen to get one.

 

[drstitson]

BTW haven't read all the posts on this thread so not sure why we're needing to resort to such drastic measures to deal with feral bee inspectors.

AFAIK like wasps most disappear around this time of year leaving a small hibernating population of founders to start again next season.

 

[rae]

"I was getting ready to shoot rabbits when I heard the burglar trying to break in m'lud".

I often shoot rabbits at night, so, that rationale is perfectly plausible. I shoot the little sods from the bedroom window as well, so that angle is covered.

 

[Bead]

Back to topic! The Bee Inspector we have in this area is absolutely brilliant - patient, thorough and helpful. There was an outbreak of AFB in the district, so he was busier than a busy thing checking all the local hives. He's worth his weight in gold.

Pete - how did your inspection go, BTW?

 

[victor meldrew]

interesting legal report in the times a week or two back - seems you are ok to pick up a knife if you are in the kitchen when disturbed BUT you can't go to the kitchen to get one.

Surely you had collected the knife from the kitchen in order to pare an apple ?
VM

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

yes, let's get back on topic.
had a visit off my bee inspector two weeks ago - he just phoned for a chat as he does with all new keepers in his area a few months ago but got busy with EFB and AFB (nowhere near me TG) so was touching base again: as he was only a few miles around and I was on the point of opening up the hives he popped over, very knowledgeable with plenty of advice - asked which hive i wanted him to examine first and helped me mark my new queens. He even asked me if it was alright to shake a few bees off the frames for a better look.
All in all a very rewarding experience.
I think that if you treat someone from officialdom politely and with respect they reciprocate (that's fact come to think of it because if I select someone for examination and they're stroppy the gloves come off and I take no prisoners or rather I do sometimes, if you know what I mean!!)

 

[The Apprentices]

"I was getting ready to shoot rabbits when I heard the burglar trying to break in m'lud".

I often shoot rabbits at night, so, that rationale is perfectly plausible. I shoot the little sods from the bedroom window as well, so that angle is covered.

One of the very best dett's from Mr Burgalar and for defence in your home would be that chainsaw your weilding, I have a lovely little Echo saw that starts really easy, no need for guns.

On the rabbit front, we have an 18 month old border collie bitch which catches them for us no gun needed.

Have a top of the range Daystate which will drop the fluffy tails at 30 meters, but we get far more with the dog and it's perfecly anonymous and silent, none's the wiser.

And welcome our inspector with open arms, she is lovely.