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Only if you buy £50 worth (about 40kg)

Not here,they will deliver one box of fondant if that is all i required.

You can add thymol to fondant easier if you make your own...but best to do it outside,or in an airy place.
 
but best to do it outside,or in an airy place

And only the less sharp will add it to the mix at the dissolving stage!
 
It sure is free but up here at least they are not taking small orders hence my going through a baker.

Ok so cost.

What is your time worth per hour? Cost it in. Including clean up time. Dinna forget that wee gem. Then power, as it takes gas or electric to cook it up.

Still think home made is cheaper? Lucky you. It sure ain't for me.

PH

Most hobby bee-keepers would admit that if they costed in their time doing or planning their bee-keeping, even at minimum wage it doesn't work out very cost effective. Most don't have to factor in their time as its doing something they enjoy ( yes I do enjoy the process of making fondant, adding thymol and even doing the washing up after.., the gas consumption is only pennies) .
On a commercial scale of course it would seem impractical and there is probably a cut off point at around 20 hives where your between two camps and the choice is a personal one. Do you have spare time or do you have spare money ?.

It remains a fact though that if you don't factor in some imaginary 'labour charge' , home made fondant is ( at worst) around half the price of bought in stuff and home made 2-1 syrup is at least around half the price of bought in invert bee syrup.
 
Most hobby bee-keepers would admit that if they costed in their time doing or planning their bee-keeping, even at minimum wage it doesn't work out very cost effective.
... yes I do enjoy the process of making fondant...

It remains a fact though that if you don't factor in some imaginary 'labour charge' , home made fondant is ( at worst) around half the price of bought in stuff and home made 2-1 syrup is at least around half the price of bought in invert bee syrup.

I think you are also exaggerating the yield figure to flatter the cost of home-made.
2 kg of sugar, does not yield 2.5 kg of fondant. That would be 20% water, the same as honey!
Yes, you start by adding water to dissolve the sugar, but then you boil almost all of it off.

If you enjoy making 12 kg of fondant, I don't want to stop you doing it!
But its not everyone's idea of fun. :)
 
but then you boil almost all of it off.

If you are clever about it, you don't need to boil off that much water.

While I disagree with the 'at best' and 'at least' terminology (seems 'a-about-f' to me).

My costings are practical ones - what it costs, or would cost, me.
 
Not heard from chap in local assoc who normally supplies me, so this morning just popped into local baker and enquired. They will get some ( 12.5 Kg) delivered with their normal delivery tomorrow. No problem
 
Just a heads up that Bako have autonomous regions so some will take a small order but the Midlands one has decided not to.

PH
 
Last year my bee buddy made the fondant. I'm going to buy some in this year. How much should I get in per (average) hive?
 
Last year my bee buddy made the fondant. I'm going to buy some in this year. How much should I get in per (average) hive?

3 colonies like me?
Once you have a source of supply (and can get more in a matter of days), I don't see the point in holding more than one 12.5 kg pack, "just in case".
Unless, of course, you are getting stung for a delivery charge per order.
 
If I made some fondant up, how long does it last, what's the best way to keep it?
 
If I made some fondant up, how long does it last, what's the best way to keep it?

I wrap mine in cling film, well sealed and keep in a cool dark place in the shed, good for 6 months to a year in my experience. Older may have some mould on the surface and I've even scraped that off after a year and used in emergencies, no harm to bees.
 
bought a 12.5 from chaffins in redruth (cornwall) I packed mine all up ready into takeaway tubs which i then wrapped in cling. lasted me a couple of years but my house is very cool so almost like keeping it in fridge in winter! Just bought my next batch cost a bit more but they bring it to my door and are happy to take small orders.

Also have a bit for the chrimbo cake as well then.
 
Dry sugar - stable

Honey - keeps for years as long as the water content is OK. Ferments when much over 20% (depending on type).

1:1 - will ferment (if yeasts present) in warm conditions.

Fondant is around 11% water. There should be some clues above for it's life-span.

Stored in normal conditions (dry, cool and sealed against moisture loss [or a solid block will result]) it will last years.
 

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