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Looks good b+ , it wouldn't take a feeder on top but would be very useful for observation purposes. over winter etc..

It would take a feeder, you are using Nationals with bottom bee space. Correct. If so then a few cuts in the sheeting to make a flap would allow you to use contact or rapid feeders.
 
From experience if you put a super full of brood above the Queen exluder the amount of dead drones is sad to see jammed in the excluder.. i have three on brood + half this winter... what i will be doing when placing the super box above the excluder is make a thin eke with a single bee escape in it...that will be put between the Queen excluder and the super which will hopefully allow the drones to get out..

As for making a mistake with feeding i did not...two hives in question took more than there fair share of syrup and where well upto weight for going into winter..then leading up to Christmas two hives started loosing weight quicker than i would have liked so fondant was given..another hive that did not take much syrup was always going to be in trouble...but three that weighed the same as the other two have held there weight pretty well..so for me it is not a mistake by you as all the colonies behave differently..even in the same location.
 
The historical sufficiency for a National was a completely full deep brood box for over-wintering. Weighing by just raising each side with weighing scales is perfectly adequate. I used to quietly remove the roof first, as the weight is that much less without it.

A 14 x 12 brood box usually contains far more stores than needed, requiring extra brood frames added in place of unused stores when brooding gets going well.

Only weighing at one end of the hive is dangerous territory. If all the stores from one end is used up, the next time the hive is weighed could be misleading.

As for transparent cover boards, they are simply not necessary and only encourage interfering with the cluster, in winter, by inexperienced beeks.

April is far too late for first inspections if the weather is good for the bees. I leave them alone over winter until mid/late February and then only to observe if brooding is occurring.

When I used to encourage early brooding to be ready for the earliest OSR, the bees were fed with 1:1 at this time, reducing to almost water if stores were plentiful. There is no hard and fast rules as it all depends on the beekeeper’s observational and skills. Once accelerated, the bees must be kept well fed to maintain the heavy brooding and expanding hive population.

Isolation starvation is a problem if the cluster moves away from stores and is then separated from those stores by a cold snap. Following where the cluster is located, and moving, during the winter is easy enough without opening the hive, for those with only a few colonies.

Beekeeping does not stop during the winter - it just needs observations of weather, bee activity, stores, etc. No need to keep disturbing them during their time of slumber.

Polyhives are easier to manage in the winter, I have found. Simply because they do not consume as much stores while clustered.

RAB
 
The historical sufficiency for a National was a completely full deep brood box for over-wintering. Weighing by just raising each side with weighing scales is perfectly adequate. I used to quietly remove the roof first, as the weight is that much less without it.

A 14 x 12 brood box usually contains far more stores than needed, requiring extra brood frames added in place of unused stores when brooding gets going well.

Only weighing at one end of the hive is dangerous territory. If all the stores from one end is used up, the next time the hive is weighed could be misleading.

As for transparent cover boards, they are simply not necessary and only encourage interfering with the cluster, in winter, by inexperienced beeks.

April is far too late for first inspections if the weather is good for the bees. I leave them alone over winter until mid/late February and then only to observe if brooding is occurring.

When I used to encourage early brooding to be ready for the earliest OSR, the bees were fed with 1:1 at this time, reducing to almost water if stores were plentiful. There is no hard and fast rules as it all depends on the beekeeper’s observational and skills. Once accelerated, the bees must be kept well fed to maintain the heavy brooding and expanding hive population.

Isolation starvation is a problem if the cluster moves away from stores and is then separated from those stores by a cold snap. Following where the cluster is located, and moving, during the winter is easy enough without opening the hive, for those with only a few colonies.

Beekeeping does not stop during the winter - it just needs observations of weather, bee activity, stores, etc. No need to keep disturbing them during their time of slumber.

Polyhives are easier to manage in the winter, I have found. Simply because they do not consume as much stores while clustered.

RAB

I agree with you on certain things RAB..
1, having perspex crown boards doesn't mean your interfering or have to interfere with the cluster it's a really good way of keeping an eye on where the colony is and how many frames of stores they have.
2. I agree, April is to late for first inspection's where I live anyway , I had a colony swarm at the end of April and then killed the new Queen because they preferred a superceded Queen , maybe because she didn't get mated properly what ever happened this colony is now my strongest .

I think if the weather permits then I'll be looking at mine earlier.

I agree it's all down to beekeeping experience , I have really good willow flows up here so i have had no need to feed syrup,but hives that will be going to the farm and are down by the river are different again .
 
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I presume you staple it to a frame B+

I use Langstroth Polyhives (top bee space) so its ok to just lie it ontop of the box.
I cut them slightly oversize and get 4 across the width of the roll. When I put the roof on the polyhive, it pushes down around the edges. The bees propolise around the edges a little in autumn but thats ok. It's easy enough to lift if I need to.
No frame is necessary. It's a really cheap way of making transparent covers for lots of hives
 
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I wanted to add , I don't use excluders and would prefer to leave my 1st and 2nd halfs above the brood over winter , as the cluster moves up during winter and down in spring/summer , I've found none of my Queens laying brood above this and have found that the movement in the colony is so much better with out them .
The only down fall is finding the queen's but marking them using the isolation cage helps if your very careful .
I'm not worried about brood being in the halfs as when it emerges stores are generally put in the frames instead .
This works for me and in some ways a three box system .

I've come to the conclusion that most of my Amms could go to double brood which would make for easier manipulating of the frames which is what I plan for this season but still with out QEs...
 
I wanted to add , I don't use excluders and would prefer to leave my 1st and 2nd halfs above the brood over winter , as the cluster moves up during winter and down in spring/summer , I've found none of my Queens laying brood above this and have found that the movement in the colony is so much better with out them .
The only down fall is finding the queen's but marking them using the isolation cage helps if your very careful .
I'm not worried about brood being in the halfs as when it emerges stores are generally put in the frames instead .
This works for me and in some ways a three box system .

I've come to the conclusion that most of my Amms could go to double brood which would make for easier manipulating of the frames which is what I plan for this season but still with out QEs...
Extracting without Queen excluders will be fun,, but remind me not to buy any of your honey.. lol..;)
 
Extracting without Queen excluders will be fun,, but remind me not to buy any of your honey.. lol..;)

Don't worry I would keep all the honey with brood in for my self I could do with the protein.
 
Extracting without Queen excluders will be fun,, but remind me not to buy any of your honey.. lol..;)


Even if you can’t tell the difference between capped honey and capped brood, the rest of us don’t have that problem.
 
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To feed a hive for Winter belongs to basic skills. It does not need much philosophy.
 
Cheers B+, thats a bargain compared to the 8x4 sheets ive been buying.

It's not as thick as polycarbonate sheet, but, it's a lot thicker than some of the rolls I've seen. It's certainly thick enough for covers anyway.
 
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They divide it because they don't want to work a 1 1/2 brood? If I overwinter with a super on top (stores) I put a QE on first inspection so the queen can't lay in it anymore and it can be used as a honey super when needs be. Doing it early also means that there's no drone brood so they don't get stuck in QE.
 

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