AS advice

[Bcrazy]

Hi O9O
was this question directed at me or not?
All the best

 

[oliver90owner]

Hi O9O
was this question directed at me or not?
All the best

Je ne compende pas Expandez s'il vous plait!

In other words, I have not a clue what you are on about!

Regards?, RAB

 

[mbc]

There are a couple of issues here worth remarking on.

I would not leave a sealed cell in an AS situation. Only the very youngest I can find and if there are none then I would leave them none provided there are young grubs.

I would never "just" give the Queen and bees foundation only. As remarked already it is a major barrier. I would give them on EACH SIDE of the brood frame she is found on empty drawn combs to lay up. The rest can be foundation and a frame feeder with one to one syrup.

PH

Poly , about the not leaving a sealed cell, I'm not so sure. Why not leave all the cells and leave it to the bees to choose - bees now best !
Of coarse, this is assuming the hive with the cells and the brood is switched round to the other side of the original site after a week to further deplete their population and lessening the chance they might throw a cast

 

[Repwoc]

Still not sure what to do.

I've been through them again today - definitely no queen in the new hive - and they are pretty cross about it. They don't have any young brood now so can't make emergency queen.

My current thinking is to take another frame of brood with 2 QCs from the original hive and put it in the new hive. Does that sound like a good idea or will the Bs not take to the sudden appearance of QCs?

Or, should I just wait until there is a mated queen in the original hive then combine them? It strikes me that if I move a couple of QCs into the new hive then there is double the chance of getting at least one mated queen between them then if necessary I can combine them.

What do you think? Please don't keep telling me what you would have done because what's done is done and I could do with some help moving on from where I am now.

Thanks

 

[Poly Hive]

Why MBC because they will cast and cast again.

Leaving just a very young cell helps take them off "the boil" as it were and cools the swarming ardour.

That is why.

PH

 

[Repwoc]

I think the original hive swarmed this afternoon. I was called to attend to a swarm just up the road, and they are Carni's like mine. I can't be certain of course, but when I looked in the original hive this PM there is an emerged queen cell. So I've taken decisive action:

1. Removed a frame of brood + one QC to the queenless hive;
2. Taken one QC and placed with a cupful of Bs in an Apidea (bought at the Gloucester auction last weekend);
3. Destroyed all remaining QCs except one unsealed one containing a fat larvae.

Fortunately there is stacks of sealed worker brood.

These Carnis are a bit troublesome aren't they. My other colony of Italian type Bs seem to be much less inclined to swarm - I went through them yesterday and not one QC or even any play cups, and they are currently filling their third super.

 

[mbc]

Why MBC because they will cast and cast again.

Leaving just a very young cell helps take them off "the boil" as it were and cools the swarming ardour.

That is why.

PH

My bees wouldnt . Just goes to show how different bees react differently to similar manipulations.
All beekeeping is local - all beekeepers are loco !