Apistan these days.

[bjosephd]

The talk seems to be only of oxalic. Occasionally MAQs. Rarely apiguard or apistan.

I have (only ever) used apiguard last couple of years.

Don't have the kit for vaping.

Considering alternating to apistan for a season.

Is it still considered an acceptable and efficacious treatment?

 

[Hivemaker.]

Is it still considered an acceptable and efficacious treatment?

No good here, best thing to do is a Beltsville test where you are.

 

[bjosephd]

Damn. Varroa mostly resistant in the uk now huh?

 

[Bee Bumble]

The bee Inspector for my area was recommending it last year on the grounds that immune bees will have all died out many years ago. If you are certain no one has used it in your area for many years, it would may be very effective for one season. Then return to thymol, oxalic and perhaps formic acid for several more years. Your gamble.

 

[Hivemaker.]

The bee Inspector for my area was recommending it last year on the grounds that immune bees will have all died out many years ago.

Had not used it myself for fifteen years, that was three years ago when I tried it out again, still no good, and not many other beekeepers around this area.

 

[bjosephd]

Doesn't sound hopeful. I'm on double lang brood too... so it'd be probably an inadequate dose even at the best of times. Their FAQ suggest the same dose.

 

[Bee Bumble]

Had not used it myself for fifteen years, that was three years ago when I tried it out again, still no good, and not many other beekeepers around this area.

Thanks for your advice. I will keep away from it. It may be the Bee Inspectors have been influenced by ...?
I preferred to vaporize oxalic acid but that is not now permitted - Apibioxal blocks up the vaporizer. Formic acid can result in queens being balled and I have had it taint honey when used with supers on despite their assurances to the contrary. Apiguard etc is not very effective and the bees hate it (so do I, it takes a month after all).
What Varroa treatment do you now recommend?

P.S. Looking forward to trying Hopguard! - have you heard anything about its efficacy?

 

[Hivemaker.]

What Varroa treatment do you now recommend?

Oxalic acid, thymol pads and for an effective strip treatment (still) Biowar 500 or Apivar, main ingredient being Amitraz in both, there is also another Amitraz treatment which has been recently added to the list but, cannot remember the name atm.

 

[bjosephd]

Thymol Pads?

 

[Bee Bumble]

Oxalic acid, thymol pads and for an effective strip treatment (still) Biowar 500 or Apivar, main ingredient being Amitraz in both, there is also another Amitraz treatment which has been recently added to the list but, cannot remember the name atm.

Thank you.

 

[rdmw]

I had very good results from using Apistan last autumn and then following it up with sublimation at new year however I have not used apistan for many years and so there was little if any resistance in my mite population I plan to use apistan every third or fourth year as part of an integrated pest management system using it more frequently as like to become rapidly ineffective owing to resistant mites


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[Hivemaker.]

Thymol Pads?

Treatments like Apilife-Var.

May also be another effective one looming on the horizon.........

....http://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=38743

 

[Erichalfbee]

Thanks for your advice. I will keep away from it. It may be the Bee Inspectors have been influenced by ...?
I preferred to vaporize oxalic acid but that is not now permitted -
?

Since when ?
News to me, have you got links to that?

 

[Millet]

Since when ?
News to me, have you got links to that?

I think that was for the Gerbils and Guineapig's.... lol

 

[bjosephd]

Apilife var an acceptable option for spring treatment?

I'd like to potentially get a treatment in before any significant flow.

 

[Millet]

Apilife var an acceptable option for spring treatment?

I'd like to potentially get a treatment in before any significant flow.

I may be wrong but if a Autumn treatment and Winter treatment is done correct a spring treatment is not needed.

 

[bjosephd]

I do not vape or use oxalic. So no 'winter' treatment.

 

[Hivemaker.]

Apilife var an acceptable option for spring treatment?

Thymol treatments are not the best of treatments to use in spring, one reason being the temperatures are less likely to be high enough for the treatment to be effective enough... and the other is thymol can put some queens off lay, just at a time when you really want them to be laying as much as possible.

 

[bjosephd]

So it's vape or hope huh.

 

[Bee Bumble]

Since when ?
News to me, have you got links to that?

I wrote: I preferred to vaporize oxalic acid but that is not now permitted - Apibioxal blocks up the vaporizer.

My understanding is that only Apibioxal is the only permitted oxalic acid treatment for Varroa in the UK (personal comment from my local bee inspector). I find it blocks up my vaporizer with sugar/ silica gunk.