Views on LASI Queens at the end of the season

[Erichalfbee]

You could use your winter fuel payment to help

 

[B+.]

This beekeepering lark is getting a tad expensive

I should say so! Thats called "extracting the urine"!

I have yet to find anyone who has tested LASI queens, let alone found them to be any different to the bog-standard open mated queens you can find anywhere.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

LASI news today

Tested Open-Mated Queen Batch - 25th May 2017

£500.00

Decision time.... two of them or a Flow's Hive?

This beekeepering lark is getting a tad expensive for an OAP like me!!

Yeghes da

I think I'll just invest in a heated seat for the outside toilet - I'd get more pleasure out of that.

 

[Hivemaker.]

I have yet to find anyone who has tested LASI queens,

Prof Ratnieks and his team would of tested them.

 

[REDWOOD]

hold the fort, tested them for what? no good having a mite free hive that produces zero or have none of the desirable genes that go with good queens.

 

[B+.]

Prof Ratnieks and his team would of tested them.

If they are selected breeder queens (which I suspect they are for that price), they would be at least 1, but probably 2, year old. I would expect them to be instrumentally inseminated too, otherwise, you wouldn't know the workers had any of the traits you paid all that money for.

 

[Hivemaker.]

If they are selected breeder queens (which I suspect they are for that price), they would be at least 1, but probably 2, year old. I would expect them to be instrumentally inseminated too, otherwise, you wouldn't know the workers had any of the traits you paid all that money for.

If your really interested and want to know it is best to contact Prof Ratnieks.

 

[B+.]

If your really interested and want to know it is best to contact Prof Ratnieks.

I may just do that. In the meantime, I found this http://www.lasiqueenbees.com/our-queen-bees.html . I'm not sure where Icanhopit saw the £500 queens as I don't see them there

 

[Hivemaker.]

I'm not sure where Icanhopit saw the £500 queens as I don't see them there

Go to store on bottom left hand side of page, click on that, pick the queens you want and click on "read more"


....or http://onlineshop.sussex.ac.uk/browse/product.asp?compid=1&modid=1&catid=144

....or http://onlineshop.sussex.ac.uk/brow...d=1&modid=1&deptid=30&catid=144&prodvarid=192

 

[B+.]

hold the fort, tested them for what? no good having a mite free hive that produces zero or have none of the desirable genes that go with good queens.

It would be nice if Prof Ratnieks, or one of his team, communicated what they were testing for (apart from hygienic behaviour).
All my results are published on www.beebreed.eu

 

[B+.]

....or http://onlineshop.sussex.ac.uk/brow...d=1&modid=1&deptid=30&catid=144&prodvarid=192

HM This is the correct link.

Well, if anyone has £500 to spare .... ;-)

 

[Finman]

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New Zealand has tried to breed varroa tolerant bees long time. No success so far.

 

[For want of a better word]

I think I'll just invest in a heated seat for the outside toilet - I'd get more pleasure out of that.

I will send you a pack of Thrones special crown board matchstick to place under the corners of the lid ... so that you can get a good through draught!!

Yehes da

 

[Amari]

I will send you a pack of Thrones special crown board matchstick to place under the corners of the lid ... so that you can get a good through draught!!

Yehes da

Good thinking! T'will enhance Nature's intention - that hanging goolies in a bag keeps them cool and improves function.

 

[Madge]

hold the fort, tested them for what? no good having a mite free hive that produces zero or have none of the desirable genes that go with good queens.

... for hygienic behaviour using the freeze-killed brood test: third paragraph - here -.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

so no different to the mediocre rubbish they fobbed off on people this year then

 

[B+.]

... for hygienic behaviour using the freeze-killed brood test: third paragraph

I think the question referred to other valuable characteristics (e.g. swarming, disease resistence, overwinterig ability, etc) rather than just hygienic behaviour

 

[B+.]

so no different to the mediocre rubbish they fobbed off on people this year then

At least these are mated in their apiary (which, we have to assume is secure/secluded) and they test the workers for hygienic behaviour.
I've still seen nothing about their pedigree so its hard to see if the result in the mother isn't just a fluke.
It would make a lot more sense to instrumentally iseminate them with semen from drones you knew came from hygienic colonies rather than open mate them.
The virgin daughters were potentially useful as drone mothers but you would still need to have unrelated stock to supply the virgin queens for them to mate with

 

[Erichalfbee]

The thing is that the £40 queens are described as open mated in their own apiary. Fair enough and an adequate description. The £500 queens are described as the same but put in colonies and their progeny tested. If they are the same as the £40 queens then what is the point of testing them unless it is to justify the price. Surely if they are the same the progeny will have the same behaviour? Or have I completely missed something?

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

It seems scams are flavour of the month currently

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