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it can become a little confusing

It surely is even to old beeks. No one is master when born.

The best is that you are going to treat them. Is it better if the hive is dead after 3 months?

So do as the package says. There are good safe limits allways with these stuffs. Othert beekeepers are too normal humans. In Finland average beeks age is 58 years. Under 30 y old beeks are few.

protect your fingers that stuff do not burn your skin.
 
newbees must be helped,any question asked must be answered politely,no point scoring we all started in the same mist of confusion where a helping hand or timely advise meant we continued to practise this wonderful craft.
remember the wise quote,some cause happiness wherever they go ,others whenever they go.
 
You are obviously a very unpleasant man Oliver90owner.

Not at all, but some do say 'I don't suffer fools gladly'.

You need to read and actually learn what you read is perhaps a better or alternative way of putting it. I still doubt you knew what a varroa mite looked like. All I can glean is what I read on the forum and your posts certainly give me that impression.

Varroa are an ecto-parasite of the honey bee and damages the colony by deforming/infecting/killing the bees at the pupation stage. They are never going to be teeming on detritus stored just below the colony. BGet a book on the subject and actually read it, learn it and inwardly digest the contents is my advice. My replies are honest and direct. If you don't like them that is tough - for you.

Thus far in this thread there has been no evidence of a severe varroa problem; there may be, but it is not demonstrated. You would not be looking at a seething mass of detritus for evidence of varroa. Got it yet?
 
You are obviously a very unpleasant man Oliver90owner. I often see your comments and post to new beekeepers. We might not all be as lucky as you with your broad range of knowledge and very large head!!!
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You are obviously a very unpleasant man Oliver90owner.

Not at all, but some do say 'I don't suffer fools gladly'.

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My replies are honest and direct. If you don't like them that is tough - for you.

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Got it yet?

But that's exactly what people mean by "an unpleasant man" !

Got it yet ?

LJ
 
Thank you Reiner
Maybe your right and they weren't Varroa after all. These were really tiny and fast crawling. They were mites, I just assumed they might be baby varroa's. Sorry for my lack of knowledge but when you haven't seen one before in real life it is difficult. I also am probably over worrying.

Since you have seen bees with deformed wings, you almost certainly do have varroa in significant numbers. Probably enough to require treatment, UNLESS they were treated immediately before you took them on, and the treatment was successful. You'd need to test, by counting, to tell whether or not you have an ongoing problem.

Varroa are fairly small, about 1mm.
But though they can move abruptly, they don't move far.
Truly "young" (immature) ones are out of sight in capped cells (and white).
Looking for them in capped brood can come later - start simple.

You need to learn what varroa look like before you can monitor them by counting them on the board.
And that is very important for beekeeping (keeping your bees alive) these days.


Clean off the board completely, give it a wipe with cooking oil (to make it very slightly sticky) and insert it - and note the date in a diary.

Then arrange to have another beekeeper point out the things you are looking for. Whether that is at your association's apiary, you visiting another member, or vice versa -- it is very important that you know exactly what you are looking for.

After a few days (at least 3, no point more that 14) count the varroa on the board, and divide by the number of days to find a daily average drop.
More than 10 a day is a real problem.


MAQS treatment is not to be undertaken lightly.
But a natural varroa drop of more than 10 day is an idication that the colony won't last long without treatment.


/ says a man who has spent his Saturday learning more than he needs to about varroa ...
 
I quite understand you saying you don't know what the mite drop looks like on the board until you've seen it.
 
Thank you Reiner
Maybe your right and they weren't Varroa after all. These were really tiny and fast crawling. They were mites, I just assumed they might be baby varroa's. Sorry for my lack of knowledge but when you haven't seen one before in real life it is difficult. I also am probably over worrying.

Steve56616

Search 'varroa mite' on youtube - lots there.

Try this to start - might help with identification on the drop board.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnMv-MOhLEw[/ame]
 
Since you have seen bees with deformed wings, you almost certainly do have varroa in significant numbers.

Did I miss something???

Who said they had seen deformed wings.
 
Very kind of you but I wonder if perhaps that next time might indicate that such references are to something said in a previous thread. Its all so confusing having to sort through these forums in between counting bugs.
 
Yes I have noticed a few with deformed wings. I also spoke to the suppliers of my bees and they informed me they were treated in the autumn.
I have also read loads and watched loads but dislike being told by the certain individual who only like to cause aggravation I haven't taken in or read. I pointed out to him before.... I am 46yrs old not 16 but then I think he gets off on trying to wind people up.
I WILL NOT feel silly about getting things wrong or seeing the wrong type of mite. I realise there are varroa there and will take the advice given as I always do.
I WILL NOT be bullied away from this site and made to feel scared to ask for advice when I need to. If people are offended by me learning this great hobby then don't read my posts!!!

Thanks again for all the good advice which really will be used.

Steve
 
I have also read loads and watched loads but dislike being told by the certain individual who only like to cause aggravation I haven't taken in or read.
I think the problem here is that many of us are surprised that considering all the information available in the public domain (ie, one word typed into google) and that in your own words you have "read and watched loads" that you seem not to know what a varroa mite looks like.
 
I think the problem here is that many of us are surprised that considering all the information available in the public domain (ie, one word typed into google) and that in your own words you have "read and watched loads" that you seem not to know what a varroa mite looks like.

:banghead::banghead::banghead:

Well I am obviously the thickest newbie ever then. Is that what people want to hear??
Has it not occurred to you that seeing them in real life is different to a photo in a book or a video. Also when I do inspections I am trying to look at everything and it all hasn't become second knowledge to me yet.

Christ sake give me a break!!!
 
Has it not occurred to you that seeing them in real life is different to a photo in a book or a video.

Not at all, apart from size.

as the bishop said to..........
 
Take a look at this webpage, scroll down to fig 2 - picture of mites and debris on an inspection board. Randy says he can see at least 25 in the photo - how many can you see? (The dark oval-shaped thingies ...)
http://scientificbeekeeping.com/sick-bees-part-11-mite-monitoring-methods/

I think I can see 13 or 14

If im correct, this is what I was looking for but what I did see threw me and I just assumed they were younger varroa's or smaller than I had imagined.
Now tell me... I got it wrong and there are about 50 lol
 
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Bung some Vicks vapour rub in there.
 
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