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Jeff M

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I collected a small swarm this morning. Due to the number of swarms this year it doesn't look like anyone in the club has room for it, and I want to stay with just 2 hives for now.

My 2nd hive is from a swarm and has been in a brood box for about 3 weeks now.

My plan is to unite the 2 swarms to build the strength of the colony.

I was considering using the air freshener method and letting the queens duke it out, but how long should I leave the new swarm in a nuc before attempting to unite?
 
with fresh swarms no need to wait, you can just throw them in together, they'll be fine.
 
fresh swarms can be thrown in together never had more than one to deal with at a time this year hasn't been many stray swarms in this part of the country. however if the bees are hived up for a few days or more I would newspaper unite
 
I collected a small swarm this morning. Due to the number of swarms this year it doesn't look like anyone in the club has room for it, and I want to stay with just 2 hives for now.

My 2nd hive is from a swarm and has been in a brood box for about 3 weeks now.

My plan is to unite the 2 swarms to build the strength of the colony.

I was considering using the air freshener method and letting the queens duke it out, but how long should I leave the new swarm in a nuc before attempting to unite?

3 weeks is a bit long. Received wisdom is that you can dump swarms in together within about 3 days.
Confusion combines are supposed to be for 3 (or more) colonies/swarms.

If your first swarm Q ("2nd hive") is laying good worker brood, I'd suggest that you try and preserve her. With a coupe of boxes and a couple of QXs, you should be able to extract (even a virgin) Q from your new catch - and then (newspaper) combine just the bees to the established colony.
Floor/QX/(empty)box and shake in the new swarm. QX on top, then another box - with frames (one with a bit of brood would be great). Workers will go up to the frames, swarm Q and swarm drones are trapped between the two QXs. So you can remove the lower box 'sandwich' and either terminate those unproductive (and questionable genetics) bees or take them a very long way away and allow nature to take its course. Which leaves you with a box of workers, ready to unite with your other colony.
Idea from Adrian Waring, Beecraft April 2001.
 
Thanks that's helpful.

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