Temp controlled transport for brood & queen cells

[rolande]

I would have thought temp becomes less of an issue after the final pupal molt and even less critical once the wings have unfurled.

At the other end of the job there's also the issue of some very good queen breeders (a few of who are trained scientists in their own right) using, even shipping, 48hr cells without harm to the finished product.

 

[Hivemaker.]

I prefer thermal physics, much safer to pontificate, and easier to experiment

Perhaps it would be advisable to never open a hive of bees again.

 

[Eyeman]

I have thought many times and used sound logic yet finally proved wrong on much, much safer ground than the timing of the neurological development of insects.

because such problems as highlighted in the paper have previously been by their very nature not observed by beekeepers, i would take the side of caution.

I prefer thermal physics, much safer to pontificate, and easier to experiment

Just because brood kept for 12 days at 32 degree C is deleterious to the adult bee does not mean a short term temperature fluctuation is harmful; it may well be beneficial.
Just look around us and it is plain to see that most things we consume or are exposed to can be beneficial in low doses yet harmful when taken in excess.
If we all took your view then modern medical treatments would never have been developed- think of digitalis and belladonna etc..
Until I see the evidence through a scientific report, that a short term temperature reduction of brood at an advanced stage of development is harmful then I will continue to believe my own eyes

 

[Little John]

I prefer thermal physics, much safer to pontificate, and easier to experiment.

But only if the presenting situation lends itself to a single-variable experiment ...

The world of biology is much different - it is far more complex - which is why the results of single-variable biological experiments are frequently unclear, seldom have the same repeatability as seen with experiments conducted in the physical sciences, and invariably require statistical analysis in order to draw any tenative conclusions from them.

LJ

 

[user 6228]

Perhaps it would be advisable to never open a hive of bees again.

I dont, the beekeeper usually does that.

 

[rolande]

Perhaps that's part of the problem -visualizing issues which just aren't there at the hands-on level.

 

[user 6228]

Perhaps that's part of the problem -visualizing issues which just aren't there at the hands-on level.

she does let me watch
And I get to handle the occasional frame of bees
and of course all the fetching and carrying
And building the hives
And help building the frames
and do the uncapping...

its only fair ... she did plant biology