Someone has been down to my hives ...other than me

[Hivemaker.]

Obviously you're well 'ard. But we less powerful mortals must bear in mind that a burglar might fight back, and, perish the thought, come off best.

What would be your advise, keep well out of the way and let them carry on with the burglary, and give the police a quick call after they have left, yes.

 

[user 6228]

So if he had shot them in the front then he would have had no problem as they could have been attacking him?

The judgement is on the net somewhere

 

[JohnRoss]

I heard anecdotally of a neighbor of ours, after repeated trouble from vandals taking the lead out of some shotgun cartridges and filling them with rice. Apparently he shot some young dude in the *** with the rice. The guy was picking rice out of his but cheek for days apparently.

 

[madasafish]

A sawn off cricket bat makes a formidable close quarter weapon. No-one suspects you of going tooled up (as with a baseball bat)...

Edit I keep one in the house for emergencies..

 

[Torq]

South Armagh and he only got shot with rice!! You guys must be getting soft up there!

Seriously though, we have it easy on these islands we call home. A Polish friend of mine has a South African wife. Her parents live a gated community in SA and get burgled at least 3 times a year, they've both been stabbed at home in the past 4 years.

 

[thorn]

What would be your advise, keep well out of the way and let them carry on with the burglary, and give the police a quick call after they have left, yes.

No. Call the police as soon as you hear them, make a lot of noise, and see if you can scare them off. Confront them if you're confident that you can defend yourself but don't go over the top in the confrontation. You can use reasonable force to defend yourself, family and property, and the jury will always be sympathetic. But attacking an unarmed teenager from behind and with a baseball bat is probably going too far. Every case hinges on its own peculiar facts.
The CPS will rarely prosecute someone who is defending his home, and if it does, juries will rarely convict. However, the Daily Mail will love to splash those rare cases all over what purports to be its news pages.
Ultimately, is your DVD player worth the risk of your getting injured?

 

[REDWOOD]

No. Call the police as soon as you hear them, make a lot of noise, and see if you can scare them off. Confront them if you're confident that you can defend yourself but don't go over the top in the confrontation. You can use reasonable force to defend yourself, family and property, and the jury will always be sympathetic. But attacking an unarmed teenager from behind and with a baseball bat is probably going too far. Every case hinges on its own peculiar facts.
The CPS will rarely prosecute someone who is defending his home, and if it does, juries will rarely convict. However, the Daily Mail will love to splash those rare cases all over what purports to be its news pages.
Ultimately, is your DVD player worth the risk of your getting injured?

Yeah Right
Probably the old bill will take about 1-2 hours to arrive
Make allot of noise.......... and if they are armed?
It's not the fact that it's only a DVD player, they have invaded your property, and probably caused a lot of damage getting in. I will keep hold of my bat thank you If it means me going to jail so be it.
Too many do gooders if you ask me

 

[Hivemaker.]

Yeah Right
Probably the old bill will take about 1-2 hours to arrive

When i had some hives stolen they took two days to arrive, were more interested to see if my truck was taxed etc, gave me a crime number, and i never heard from them again.

They seem to make a habit of doing this kind of thing........and nothing else...........

http://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=284196&postcount=17

http://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=285806&postcount=26

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

So if he had shot them in the front then he would have had no problem as they could have been attacking him?

It all depends on how much money the lawyers think they can make on it - nowt to do with justice.

 

[victor meldrew]

When i had some hives stolen they took two days to arrive, were more interested to see if my truck was taxed etc, gave me a crime number, and i never heard from them again.



They seem to make a habit of doing this kind of thing........and nothing else...........



http://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=284196&postcount=17



http://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=285806&postcount=26

I got an urgent call from the farm across ,telling me that she and her daughter were in an upstairs room watching a guy sussing out the farm and it's buildings! And that he had left and was heading in the shadow of the hedge towards a car parked on the lane ? I picked him out at this juncture and watched him climb in his car via the passenger door .
I challenged him , told him we were on high alert (I had been burgled only the week before) . I took note of him, his vehicle reg. colour ,make and model.
The next evening a girl walked past my place and gave it a good looking over!
I remarked to my missus."she's looking for CCTV" "No says she, you are paranoid"
Next morning I reversed out of my drive touched the breaks , there were none !
Yep! The brake pie had been cut!
I phoned the old bill . Told them the whole story plus all the details , their response was ." That would be revenge . We need witnesses when dealing with malicious damage to a motor vehicle" I pointed out that attempted murder would be a more accurate description as I could easily have taken a family out had one been coming down the lane .
They didn't even offer a crime number or show any kind of interest whatsoever !
I have a large poker with a heavy phosphor bronze business end !
I have it to poke the fire of course.
No wonder the crime figures are supposedly done
VM



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[REDWOOD]

When i had some hives stolen they took two days to arrive, were more interested to see if my truck was taxed etc, gave me a crime number, and i never heard from them again.

They seem to make a habit of doing this kind of thing........and nothing else...........

http://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=284196&postcount=17

http://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=285806&postcount=26

Unfortunately this is becoming such a common story these days

 

[pargyle]

Ring the police immediately, tell them that you have a loaded shotgun and you are just about to shoot the burglars who are about to enter your home ... they'll be there in about 30 seconds ... mind you, if you didn't have a loaded shotgun then the odds are that they will charge you for wasting Police time ... and forget to look for the intruders !

 

[beeno]

Fire arms squad takes about an hour to launch. So, if you ever have the misfortune to be shot you will bleed to death before the authorities arrive!

 

[Hivemaker.]

Ring the police immediately, tell them that you have a loaded shotgun and you are just about to shoot the burglars who are about to enter your home ... they'll be there in about 30 seconds

Possibly, but i bet they would be there in 15 seconds if they thought you had a number plate light bulb blown on your truck.

 

[Oli]

I feel you'd be better to tell the police you've already shot them, if you tell them you have a loaded gun they're unlikely to come and will call in armed response instead who will take longer to come?

I like the idea of rice in a shotgun cartridge but isn't rock salt supposed to be better?

As well as having a good collection of over 10 shotguns and firearms licensed for various reasons I also have a starting pistol which lives in my bedroom, I think a shot from this would be enough to more than scare most burglars away and if its not they're welcome to come meet the rest of my collection.

 

[Hivemaker.]

We have a Yorkie terrier and a Rottweiler, i doubt they would even bother to enter the house with the noise those two make.

 

[oliver90owner]

tell them that you have a loaded shotgun

Nooo! You tell them you are about to shoot them if you get the opportunity. No need to mention a gun. As long as you have the camera, as proof of intention, when they arrive they would not be able to charge you for wasting police time. Plod already knows if there are (legal) firearms at the address.

 

[pargyle]

tell them that you have a loaded shotgun

Nooo! You tell them you are about to shoot them if you get the opportunity. No need to mention a gun. As long as you have the camera, as proof of intention, when they arrive they would not be able to charge you for wasting police time. Plod already knows if there are (legal) firearms at the address.

Great idea RAB ... wish I'd thought of that ... your usual lateral thinking

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I heard of someone (A firearms owner) who phoned the police as there was someone breaking into his outhouse - they said they didn't have the resources to respond. He just replied that's OK he ain't going anywhere - I've shot him. Five minutes later the place was crawling with boneheads. After ascertaining there was no corpse the confronted the chap with 'We were told you'd shot him' to which he replied 'I was told you had no resources to respond - looks like we both lied! he wasn't charged with anything (probably as the sergeant had problems spelling ascertained - as well as helicopter, ambulance, burglar, dog and gun)
I don't think this nonsense about wasting police time would go anywhere - hard pushed making that one stick as a crime had been commited so the expectancy would be for a police presence in reasonable time.

 

[Itchy]

A firearms owner would likely lose their certificate for that