Skimmed milk for pollen pattie.

[keith pierce]

I am having a serious problem getting defatted soy flour, but i am able to get skimmed milk, very close to me. Will this do instead of the defatted soy flour. Also i have seen on the net that some people use egg yolk power as this is also very high in protien. I can also get this at the same factory. What do you think.

 

[davnig]

different things altogether, so I would say no!

The soy flour provides the protein doesn't it??

 

[Finman]

I am having a serious problem getting defatted soy flour, but i am able to get skimmed milk, very close to me. Will this do instead of the defatted soy flour. Also i have seen on the net that some people use egg yolk power as this is also very high in protien. I can also get this at the same factory. What do you think.

laboratory studies has been made since 1977.
No laboratory recommends those stuffs what you say.

fatted soya is better. ....story about nonfatted soya is like a tar. It will not disappear.
If you have defatted, then add rape oil.

Skimmed milk has 50% lactose and bees cannot ingest it. This is dad to son advices.

Egg powder is not either needed.

Yeast and soya are very good and most recommended.

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[keith pierce]

Thanks. So you say full fat soy is ok, as i can get plenty of that. I thought it was the fat that they could not process.

 

[Finman]

Thanks. So you say full fat soy is ok, as i can get plenty of that. I thought it was the fat that they could not process.

rape pollen has fat 7%. Quite many pollen has 2% like clover.
Patty is more tasty to bees with food oil.

Bees do not like olive oil.

Egg yolk has 25% fat. Egg has as much fat as protein, boath 13%.

 

[keith pierce]

what ratio that you use the brewers yeast. Some say 1 part brewers yeast to 3 parts soya flour and then other recomend 2 parts brewers yeast to 1 part soya flour. Can you have it too strong with the brewers yeast

 

[Finman]

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Soy flour dry up easily in the hive ad bees cannot bite hard patty.
You will see it if you use different ratioes.
Moisten it with water and they eate again.

I prefer to use more yeast that it stays soft.

.hard - soft is very important issue in patty feeding. It is a key factor.

 

[keith pierce]

I went out and bought 2 packets of dates for my pollen patties and then when to check on a few hives. I got hungery and ate one of the packets . Very tasty, i can see why the bees like them.

 

[Polyanwood]

I went online and bought some dates, some soya flour and yeast. I normally only give them one pack of Neopoll each, but looking at the weather forecast I think it will be some time before they can fly regualrly for pollen, so I think they might need a bit extra.

 

[mbc]

I went out and bought 2 packets of dates for my pollen patties and then when to check on a few hives. I got hungery and ate one of the packets . Very tasty, i can see why the bees like them.

Dates are quite good but dried apricots have a much higher sulfur content and produce more, and more fragrant farts.

 

[keith pierce]

I got a 25kg bag of soya flour today for €40. I says it heat treated. Does this make any difference.

 

[Polyanwood]

I deliberately bought the heat treated one, because when I looked at the composition of pollen and the composition of soya flour I saw pollen does not have starch in it but soya has some. Toasting does convert some starch to sugar, so I thought toasted would be the best.

 

[Finman]

I says it heat treated. Does this make any difference.

soya bean like kick pea, field bean and many other legumes have strong poison. They are boiled 3 hours that poison disapears.

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[Finman]

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Soya powder must be very fine that bees can eate it.
As animal forage it must meant to use as soya milk to substitute animal mother's milk.

Look Hamlet Protein HP100.

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[keith pierce]

soya bean like kick pea, field bean and many other legumes have strong poison. They are boiled 3 hours that poison disapears.

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well, you learn something new every day... Thank you