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yes, but happens often, especially now with brexshit - a combination of it coming from Belgium and a shortage of lorry drivers. You just have to dip in until the new stock comes in. The 'hard' fondant would suffice though.Just looked. Out of stock
I have invert and a stock of sugar as back up. Last of the uncapped frames are hopefully being cleaned down into the broods.yes, but happens often, especially now with brexshit - a combination of it coming from Belgium and a shortage of lorry drivers. You just have to dip in until the new stock comes in. The 'hard' fondant would suffice though.
How much drone brood ? Most of mine have none or very little now.
A pic or two of the brood combs please.
The problem with some bakers fondants is that they have other muck in them and do not monitor HMFYou will find it so much cheaper at a bakers rather than a bee store!
Let's look at the facts shall we? nowadays, bakers fondant is made by adding water and glucose syrup to powdered sugar, no heat is used in the process and often bee labelled products are made in confectioner's factories and taken off the same production line as fondant for bakers (Belgosuc is a classic example) So to claim that baker's fondant is higher in HMF than bee labelled plain fondant just isn't true.The problem with some bakers fondants is that they have other muck in them and do not monitor HMF
I don't think so Patrick. I would be tempted to ask you to prove that statement. The ingredients are stated on the box!The problem with some bakers fondants is that they have other muck in them and do not monitor HMF
Wow, never been called sly before, if you want to discuss fondants without the personal insults I am happy to continue ?Let's look at the facts shall we? nowadays, bakers fondant is made by adding water and glucose syrup to powdered sugar, no heat is used in the process and often bee labelled products are made in confectioner's factories and taken off the same production line as fondant for bakers (Belgosuc is a classic example) So to claim that baker's fondant is higher in HMF than bee labelled plain fondant just isn't true.
It's just a sly sales pitch.
Yes.... they're definitely still bringing in pollenDon’t waste your money on Candipolline. The pollen content is insignificant
Are your bees bringing in any?
Fondant
https://beekeepingforum.co.uk/threads/suppliers.49833/
That is not baker's fondant, but fondant icing - a totally different product.Try this, I am not saying all bakers is bad but if they do not publish the ingredients because they are repacking for instance and they do not reply to request for ingredient list be careful, personally I have never thought saving a few pence was worth it, try asking them if they measure HMF ?
Bako White Professional Regalice Sugarpaste Fondant Icing - Quality You Can Rely On.
Thanks hemo.....I'll get some more when I order another hive...when the winter sales are on ....just as an interest....is it better to feed a fondant with added pollen and such....like Candipolline Gold or similar....or should I just buy normal bee fondant
The argument you are proffering is wrong, you originally suggested “Bakers fondant “ was safe to feed to bees, I am trying to add a degree of caution pointing out that not all of it is safe, I am sure some of it is. I don’t particularly care if beekeepers buy from me or you that’s is not the issue. Some of it is sold without any ingredient details. None, that I have found is sold with any reference to HMF a toxic in its own right, regardless of all the ingredients.That is not baker's fondant, but fondant icing - a totally different product.
No, you again are just trying to get people only to buy from bee suppliers using a false premise and posting misleading information.The argument you are proffering is wrong, you originally suggested “Bakers fondant “ was safe to feed to bees, I am trying to add a degree of caution pointing out that not all of it is safe,
OK, I would prefer beekeepers to buy a well deigned product fit for purpose, show me any bakers fondant manufacturer that measures HMF, then we can close this conversation off and beekeepers will be able to buy a product suitable for bees, subject to all the other ingredients being suitable.No, you again are just trying to get people only to buy from bee suppliers using a false premise and posting misleading information.
And we all know why that is.
That method doesn’t, applied heat is the issueAny evidence that cold mixing sugar powder, water and glucose syrup produces HMF?
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