New Queen back . Qc present. Help please

[pookin]

HI all re Queened 1 hive and she hatched about 5 days ago .She's in but no eggs yet . Bees polishing cells . Have reared new Queen cell so shall I leave ? Think I read somewhere they can do this until she's laying . Found clipped Queen dead on floor under entrance. Thanks for any help. Adrian .

 

[theeggman]

To the forum Adrian.

Keep asking your questions and you WILL sensible answers, there have been a lot of time wasters of late, just keep asking as there will be lots of other new beeks out there that want to know the answers as well.

Welcome again.

 

[pookin]

Thanks Tim

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

HI all re Queened 1 hive and she hatched about 5 days ago .She's in but no eggs yet . Bees polishing cells . Have reared new Queen cell so shall I leave ? Think I read somewhere they can do this until she's laying . Found clipped Queen dead on floor under entrance. Thanks for any help. Adrian .

I'm lost - what are you trying to say?

HI all re Queened 1 hive and she hatched about 5 days ago .

Re-queening usually means putting a mated queen, in an introduction cage into the hive - is this what you did? by 'hatching do you mean she was released, or was there a QC in there which has now emerged? or both?

.She's in but no eggs yet . Bees polishing cells .

What?, emerged queen - if she only emerged five days ago it will be a couple of weeks before she mates and lays.

Found clipped Queen dead on floor under entrance.

Where from? was she there before you 're-queened? is she the queen you introduced?
I think you need to take a deep breath, sit back and tell us the whole story from start to finish (short sentences will do - i have the attention span of an alhzeimic goldfish )

 

[pookin]

I'm lost - what are you trying to say?


Re-queening usually means putting a mated queen, in an introduction cage into the hive - is this what you did? by 'hatching do you mean she was released, or was there a QC in there which has now emerged? or both?

What?, emerged queen - if she only emerged five days ago it will be a couple of weeks before she mates and lays.

Where from? was she there before you 're-queened? is she the queen you introduced?
I think you need to take a deep breath, sit back and tell us the whole story from start to finish (short sentences will do - i have the attention span of an alhzeimic goldfish )

Let colony raise Queen cells , knocked them off bar 1.Queen cell hatched about 5 days ago and present. Old clipped queen dead outside hive . New queen cell in brood and capped.Adrian

 

[Hawklord]

Let the bees sort it out. Chances are the virgin has nobbled the queen inside the cell.

 

[enrico]

You have three choices. 1) Leave them and let them sort it out. The Virgin may emerge and swarm 2) take the queen cell down and wait to see if they build more. If the queen is duff you risk taking away a possible replacement. 3) remove queen cell to a nuc as a back up and let the queen get on with it.
Personally I would leave them all alone, let the queen mate in peace as you may cause harm by looking in the hive just as she is about to mate. And check again in three weeks to see what is going on! Mark the frame with the cell on.
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[jenkinsbrynmair]

Let colony raise Queen cells , knocked them off bar 1.Queen cell hatched about 5 days ago and present. Old clipped queen dead outside hive . New queen cell in brood and capped.Adrian

Sooo - saw swarm cells in hive, didn't conduct A/S, bees swarmed - queen being clipped crashed and burned outside hive, emergency QC built after departure -

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[B+.]

HI all re Queened 1 hive and she hatched about 5 days ago .She's in but no eggs yet . Bees polishing cells . Have reared new Queen cell so shall I leave ? Think I read somewhere they can do this until she's laying . Found clipped Queen dead on floor under entrance. Thanks for any help. Adrian .

When a queen emerges from her cell, she is not completely developed. It takes 5-7 days for her ovaries to develop and for her to be sexually mature. During this time she will run around quite quickly inspecting the comb.
The bees will polish the cells in the area she has walked over in anticipation of her being mated and starting to lay eggs (even though it could be 2-3 weeks from emergence before she actually lays).
Assuming she gets good weather when she is ready to mate, she will be ok. Just have patience and leave her alone.
You must have missed a cell when you put your clipped queen in. Its a good idea to shake the bees off all the frames so you don't miss any queen cells. I use a push in introduction cage when I am introducing a mated queen that has come through the post. This gives her a couple of days to come back into lay and for brood to emerge inside the cage with her and accept her. So long as you position the cage over emerging brood and open nectar, she'll be fine. This works nearly all the time

 

[B+.]

by 'hatching do you mean she was released, or was there a QC in there which has now emerged? or both?

It helps when the correct terminology is used:
an egg hatches
an adult (imago) emerges

 

[oliver90owner]

I looked, I thought, I was baffled by what was supposed to be going on. Kept out of it.

JBM might be on the right track. Still not sure what the current situation is, but it would seem you have an emerged (from the pupation stage of development) virgin in the hive.

Interfering with the colony until she has mated and starts to lay is bad practice unless you know whag you are doing.

I just have no idea what you mean by 'new queen cell' as the current situation. Need things in chronological order and preferably with accurate dates to be able to make a definitive reply.

 

[pookin]

Yeah sorry meant emerged q not hatched . So queen in there is a Virgin .Was just wondering what to do with Queen cell that's been reared . As she's a new queen ( mated or not yet ) if new q emerges there shouldn't be any swarm issues should there ? Leaving alone anyway . Thanks for replies .

 

[Gilberdyke John]

Yeah sorry meant emerged q not hatched . So queen in there is a Virgin .Was just wondering what to do with Queen cell that's been reared . As she's a new queen ( mated or not yet ) if new q emerges there shouldn't be any swarm issues should there ? Leaving alone anyway . Thanks for replies .

I'm sorry but I still can't make out what's going on. Apart from the confusing terminology and the indication that the op has 3 hives I don’t know what level of beekeeping skills he/she has. Is the queen cell that has been raised occupied or is it one which the virgin emerged from leaving a trapdoor flap but has been closed over? A closer look would have noted a tell tale ring around the closed flap. As things are now I think the best course of action is to let the colony sort it out and not risk the virgin not getting home from her matings because the beek is diving into the hive