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jd101k2000

Field Bee
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Caerbryn, near Llandybie
Hive Type
14x12
Number of Hives
7
Hi,

I am new to keeping my own bees. I received my first colony from Gloucester bee auction at the start of May (sort of Italian cross bees). Very yellow on the abdomen at the thorax end. Then at the start of June I received some bees from Blue Grass Farm (Welsh, mongrelly, dark, fat things). Both arrived in five frame national nucleus boxes. The Italians ended up in a 14 x 12 brood box and the Welsh in a national brood box. (Please don't tell me it is stupid to mix brood box types, I already know.) The hives are also only about a foot apart, too. But they have a nice SE/SSE facing prospect.

Anyway, both are getting along fine. There is clearly some drifting. Managing to worry a newbie from time to time, but getting along great. I have been doing varroa counts off screened bottom boards and everything. I even fed them when they were new and during cold spells. Varroa count on the Italians about 1 per day. Welsh zero. I am using a board covered in petroleum jelly.

Now last week was dreadful weather. Welsh at 6 frames, Italians at 8. So I fed both colonies on the understanding that they would only take 1:1 syrup if they needed it. (Using a top feeder.) It went hugely fast. Between the hives, a couple of litres per day. Today, being glorious, I took off the feed. They were still taking it, but I thought they should get out more.

Anyway, boards for varroa counts have Welsh 1, Italians 1. (Not 1 per day, 1 per week.) That is after they have been in for a week. Both hives have loads of brood at all stages. I have even counted 3 drones in the Italian hive, none in the Welsh.

So, after all that:
1) Is it normal for bees to take syrup in glorious weather? Or should I stop it, as I did, to make them go out.
2) Why have my varroa left? [That really is not a complaint!] Could it be that there are fewer phoretic mites, as there is so much brood being produced? (Or is it that the earwigs, spider mites, etc. on the 'counting' bottom board have eaten the bodies?)
3) The Italians arrived with some chalkbrood. The bottom board gets about 3-4 mummies a day. Everything else seems fine with them, so is it best to let the bees get on with it? Welsh seem to be clear of it. In the inspection today, I did not notice any chalkbrood in the Italian comb.

Um, I seem to have rambled, but hope to chat on here more often. I have enjoyed reading the forum but this is only my second post.

I hope someone will be feeling charitable and leave some answers.

John
 
Stop feeding. No need.
Varoa there, just not dropping, as there are not many, be grateful
Chalkbrrod will go, just stress and cold nights, it will disappear in this heat!
Good luck
E
 
Croeso from Glanaman - whereabouts are you (Amanford seems to be a default for any one of the surrounding communities now) I have colonies in Llandybie and Penllergaer as well.
 
Sounds like you are doing ok - well done. No need to feed, they will survive...although in some areas of Devon at the moment we seem to have hit the 'Gap'...Enjoy the forum...:)
 
:welcome:

Agree don't feed

Sound healthy and well. Chalk brood is damp dependent and in the promised heatwave should disappear.
 
Many thanks!

Enrico - thanks for the replies. That helps me to think that I am on the right track. Very helpful.

Creoso JenkinsBrynMair. Dw i'n byw yn Caerbryn. Dw i'n Saesneg ond dw i'n dysgu Cymraeg. It would be good to meet up and compare notes! I have joined the Carmarthen BKA, but have not met up with them yet.

Queens59 - thanks for the reassurance. We did seem to have a gap but they now both seem to be extremely busy. Even the few drones are buzzing around.
 
Enrico - thanks for the replies. That helps me to think that I am on the right track. Very helpful.

Creoso JenkinsBrynMair. Dw i'n byw yn Caerbryn. Dw i'n Saesneg ond dw i'n dysgu Cymraeg. It would be good to meet up and compare notes! I have joined the Carmarthen BKA, but have not met up with them yet.

Queens59 - thanks for the reassurance. We did seem to have a gap but they now both seem to be extremely busy. Even the few drones are buzzing around.

O Gaerbryn oedd mamgu - y Thomases a'r Robertses My grandmother was born and bred Caerbryn, family in the area for at least 2 centuries she was born in Dryslwyn fach by the 'street' (the cottage on the 'square' been empty for years) just opposite where Dylan death the Undertaker lives now.
You'd be better joining West Glam BKA (but i didn't say that :D)
 
Nosiness (Mine)

I had to have a wander down past Dylan death... Just so you know... The Badger is now 'Tafarn y Tarw'.

I'll have a look at WGBKA - I haven't seen much from my current ones... there are 'Apiary practicals', but no clue as to where they are. That may just mean that I need to work harder to find out ;-) :icon_204-2:
 
JD Welcome Croeso from a white Migrant "tupsyn Saes" if I spelt it right. Tiefiside is the place to be. we have a garden perty tomorrow 7/7/13 Gernos Farm Coed Y Bryn more thane welcome for a chat .

Colin
Rhydlewis
 
Hi Colin,

Good to know of another bee keeper nearby. At the moment we are overwhelmed with guests, so I'm afraid I can't come over today. Would be good to meet up at some point soon.
Best,
John
 
Are your guests visiting you or coming to see your bees lol
 
Visiting me :-(. As a new BK I am very good at boring them with accounts of the bee caste system and bee genetics etc. they haven't fled yet. Oh wait, they have absconded. I can now go to bottom of garden and stare at hives again. ;-)
 
Keep an eye on the chalk brood, when the weather turns cooler you could end up with a lot more, I would rather re-queen now
 
Hi Redwood,

I am in two minds on the chalkbrood. On the one hand, the colony is thriving. From a nucleus at the beginning of May they have filled a 14x12 brood box, look to be capping one super of honey and are on their way to filling another super.

On the other hand, in this hot weather, I saw three chalkbrood mummies on the landing board this morning. My understanding is that chalkbrood should only be evident during bad weather.

I am a newbie... so I have no previous experience on this.

If I were to re-queen, do you have a suggestion when? August, September or next spring? She was mated back last autumn.

Any suggestions welcomed :)
 
Now is a good time, before the summer ends anyway

:iagree:

I'm doing one in the next two days - she should be in the post now: from my usual breeder of prolific dark Welsh queens she abd her sister had chalk brood (sister changed a few weeks ago) which seemed to be getting worse, this one even went off lay for a while.
 
Hi Jenkins,

Who do you use for your queens? The affected hive was from Gloucester. My Welsh bees are just healthy.

:thanks:
 
This is a new one.... I have killed the old queen in my hive (about 9:30am) this morning. The new queen (collected at lunch time) is in the living room. She is nowhere near any beekeeping equipment. She is actually in my living room, as it is the coolest room in the house. She is all wrapped to keep her dark, but has air.

Here is the thing... she is piping!

Is this normal?
 

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