Honey straight from the hive.. honey flow

[pargyle]

29 pages of patent catch all ..it's not been granted and in my limited experience I don't think the patent would be granted as there are too many variations on the theme and not enough specifics to grant exclusivity.

The nub of the patent appears to be a device(s) consisting of a pre-formed comb or part comb which the bees fill with honey and cap in the normal way and then some sort of pressure or heat source device squeezes or otherwise forces/drains the honey out of the cells whilst leaving the cappings behind. The honey drains down through some sort (not specified) drainage channels and out of the hive, the pressure/heat is released, the comb reforms to its original size/section, the bees sense there is no honey behind the cappings, tear them off and refill them and the process starts again.

Quite a few ifs and buts and maybes for my liking .. Main imponderable IMO is whether the bees will oblige ... they can be fussy little beggars and if they don't like it then no amount of patent pending will make them do what you want them to do..

I did smile at the sketch of a 1000 litre IBC connected by a pipe to a row of beehives and a lorry load full of IBC's waiting to be delivered ... Best get your order in on 23rd Pete - looks like the future of commercial beekeeping came to light on this forum first !!

 

[Anduril]

looks like the future of commercial beekeeping came to light on this forum first !!

Bee sauce first they got in before us

 

[Anduril]

Michael Bush says it works as he has tested it. But no further comment due to a non disclosure agreement

 

[user 6228]

mashed bees is the problem..
if you dont open the hive you cant tell if the bees have finished filling. Then
a few bees still in cells when you operate the device and you get mashed bee
and the flow from that set of cells is blocked

 

[Finman]

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Next step is that you breed a bee strain, which put rippen honey into jars directly.

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[BeeJayBee]

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Next step is that you breed a bee strain, which put rippen honey into jars directly.

Careful, somebody will take you seriously!

Maybe this idea is more doable? http://removeandreplace.com/2013/05/07/how-to-easily-make-a-beehive-in-a-jar-backyard-project-diy/

 

[alldigging]

Careful, somebody will take you seriously!

Maybe this idea is more doable? http://removeandreplace.com/2013/05/07/how-to-easily-make-a-beehive-in-a-jar-backyard-project-diy/

Someone was selling the kits on ebay and sold quite a few!

 

[Finman]

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I planned once that bees coud pick billberries from forest. I should learn them.

Bee and billberry seem quite similar size. But them I accustomed to the bee's weight and its honey load. I noticed that 10 bees are needed to carry one billberry.

 

[peteinwilts]

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I planned once that bees coud pick billberries from forest. I should learn them.

Bee and billberry seem quite similar size. But them I accustomed to the bee's weight and its honey load. I noticed that 10 bees are needed to carry one billberry.

Train the drones. it will give them something to do and won't affect honey production

 

[Finman]

Train the drones. it will give them something to do and won't affect honey production

Thanks. My neighbour said that I have 5 moths to train them before billberries are rippen.

 

[Davelin]

Thanks. My neighbour said that I have 5 moths to train them before billberries are rippen.

Now if you can train moths as well that would be something

 

[sussexbaker]

Michael Bush says it works as he has tested it. But no further comment due to a non disclosure agreement

"That was one of the things that struck me. All of my objections (which are similar to the ones people have posted here) they had worked on and resolved already. They tweaked it. They tested it. They were showing me last night when I brought up the objection to bees getting caught how they made enough gap and shaped the gaps so that bees wouldn't get their legs caught. More detail than I would have expected. They also made sure bees would not get squished if they had their head in the cell. They get trapped for a bit, but when you close the action they get loose. It's the details that make things work well. I have no doubt as the scale of use increases they will continue to find things to tweak."

http://www.beesource.com/forums/sho...ney-Flow-quot-Flow-Hive&p=1229552#post1229552

I've not interested in getting one, but I don't think it's the rip off that so many people on here seem determined that it is.

 

[Dishmop]

How about the fact that the bees might get covered in honey pouring from above? Considering that they cant swim in syrup I doubt they will develope super grip feet to hang onto something...

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Perhaps they could ring a bell before they start it - or maybe a buzzer?

 

[einsteinagogo]

How about the fact that the bees might get covered in honey pouring from above? Considering that they cant swim in syrup I doubt they will develope super grip feet to hang onto something...

Only time will tell. Two of my work colleagues have purchased the dogs bollocks at $600 + shipping to the UK, they are not beekeepers, but they've said how difficult can it be to get honey like this, and they have already drilled a hole in their window sills, so they can thread the pipe into their kitchens, to have "honey on tap".

they have said, "they are hoping to get their bees from free swarms they'll just turn up" - like yours do!, and pay nothing for them, and they see no point in joining associations, or getting any equipment, they are just going to "stuff bees in it" their words, or they'll arrive, and then they'll get free honey, and won't get stung like you do!

(oh, and the then will undercut me! - you'd think I drive a Ferrari to work, on all the honey proceeds I make each year!)

Looking forward to two kits, second hand.....(given up, discussing Beekeeping with them now!), I'm sure they will live and learn, a bit like "Dogs & Cats at Christmas,. Bees are for Life....."

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

, I'm sure they will live and learn, a bit like "Dogs & Cats at Christmas,. Bees are for Life....."

They'll have to live for a long time waiting for their kit before learning anything!

 

[Dishmop]

I'm going to get a playground roundabout..
One hive in each section.........and a huge motor to power it at extraction time..

 

[einsteinagogo]

I'm going to get a playground roundabout..
One hive in each section.........and a huge motor to power it at extraction time..

Fanastic

Good Health Dishmop!

 

[Hivemaker.]

I've not interested in getting one

Neither am I.

 

[wessexmario]

Thanks. My neighbour said that I have 5 moths to train them before billberries are rippen.

Now if you can train moths as well that would be something

That would be efficient, 24/7 production with the moths doing the night shift