honey bucket dead on 20

[Cuckmere couple]

so

we did 2.5 hours in dehumidifier (i was playing football and mrs C C turned it off!) and ill refract that tomorrow (in sunlight) and see where it got to from 20.5

 

[Millet]

If you can get half of it down to 16%, mixing that back in would give you 18% as an average.

Who told you that..

 

[Welshboyarchrr]

Who told you that..

It's a secret! Don't tell anyone.

 

[Beefriendly]

The problem you come up against using a dehumidifier is it can only remove moisture from the top surface of your bucket...so you may find the top of your honey is now 18% after 24 houris (or whatever) ...but dig a little deeper into your bucket and you are still at 20.5.....

 

[Cuckmere couple]

so we put a few pounds in a food dehydrator in a pyrex dish on 40 degrees for 2.5 hours and it registered 19% this morning (in sunlight)

i specifically took 3 readings from different depths

any reason we shouldn't use this?

 

[Cuckmere couple]

What’s the verdict then….dehydrator safe to use for water content reduction?

 

[Anduril]

For 2.5 hours, the build up of HMF (Hydroxymethylfurfural) would be negligible.

 

[Cuckmere couple]

thanks A.

interesting observation is that the honey hasn't set again after dehydrator

so, it seems a good way of reducing moisture content and avoiding methods of preventing it setting too hard as it is mostly OSR

cant see why its not mentioned as a method elsewhere given the elaborate methods people have devised to drip honey through gutters with dehumidifiers going

 

[enrico]

After all this discussion can I suggest you keep one jar back with the high water content to see what happens. Honestly at 20.5 I wouldn't be that worried! I understand that if you are selling it there may be an issue though
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[Adam Bee]

For 2.5 hours, the build up of HMF (Hydroxymethylfurfural) would be negligible.

What does the build up of HMF actually do? Wikipedia only mentions it as a sickle cell inhibitor. Would there be any other reason to worry about it?

 

[enrico]

Apparently nothing to humans that matters! Let's face it, honey is used in cooking all the time
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[Anduril]

What does the build up of HMF actually do? Wikipedia only mentions it as a sickle cell inhibitor. Would there be any other reason to worry about it?

High concentrations of HMF if fed back to the bees would kill them. Trading standards have a limit to what the concentration is for human consumption, but we can tolerate it. Scroll down on this link https://www.fera.co.uk/food-safety/hmf.html

 

[Adam Bee]

High concentrations of HMF if fed back to the bees would kill them. Trading standards have a limit to what the concentration is for human consumption, but we can tolerate it. Scroll down on this link https://www.fera.co.uk/food-safety/hmf.html

Oh dear. Wrong link? I’m curious, but that link only discusses testing, not the effects of HMF. Interesting service. Sounds like a service for retails stores to check the product quality from wholesalers.

 

[Cuckmere couple]

will do Enrico

its all now at 19

i just want to be ultra cautious

was adding to the conversation as i think this is a simple solution given the more complex ones ive read about....

obviously i want to wait until bees have done the work rather than have the issue to rectify in the first place, however, i was bothered about getting OSR honey out of frames quickly

 

[Anduril]

Oh dear. Wrong link? I’m curious, but that link only discusses testing, not the effects of HMF. Interesting service. Sounds like a service for retails stores to check the product quality from wholesalers.

Dave Cushman site and link to pdf http://www.dave-cushman.net/bee/hmf.html
For scholarly articles which you have to pay for. https://scholar.google.co.uk/schola...vis=1&oi=scholart#d=gs_qabs&u=#p=bfZ4Y6su5yUJ
Nothing to worry about.