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I am about to start a 4 week Beekeeping Course tomorrow in Newcastle upon Tyne. I am hoping this will be the start of an interesting journey.
I am finding the information confusing but hopefully the course will make things clearer.
Mike
 
Mmm. Well Beekeeping, it's a bit like life, the more you learn, the more you realise you need to learn.

Kept simple, at its basic level, it does not feel so terribly hard to me. Right now there is nothing for me to do. But lots for you:

An early decision you want to make is "Equipment". There are a number of different hive types available, my own preference is poly, but my wife says they are ugly and should be "WBC" (the fancy ones with "Lifts"), I believe most people in this country are using wooden "National" hives. But it's something to be thinking about, look at suppliers, consider whether you want to make you own and so on.

My point is; You don't want to get Bees without the equipment to keep them.

There are a few more things, Bee suit, smoker, Hive tools, Bee brush and so on.

Then there's "Bee acquisition". I think it is quite likely that when you take the course you will find some nice soul who will give you a nuc or split to get you going.

I can go on and on, it's that much fun, but besides what I have said, your course and the wise words of your association members, there's lots to read and the is a thing called "youtube".

Youtube is like the Mcdonalds of Bee study, fast, easy and can be very nice. BUT (perhaps unlike Mcdonalds) it can be awful. Someone asked in a post the other week "are there any good you tubers" and the replies (in my view) were spot on...

http://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=41657

I like you tube, I also like "Vino Farm" and his exploits, he was so inexperienced at the start that he is ideal to learn from (especially when he drops the comb in one of his early attempts). But I have also read a lot, starting with Hubert (may remember that name wrong) and then on through Dadant et al.

So there is plenty to do :)
 
Thanks

I realised I posted the original thread in the wrong section. Sorry for that.
Thanks for the opening salvo of information. It is much appreciated.
I am looking forward to my course the the weather probably means that any hands on work tomorrow will be delayed. :(
 
Hi, the secret is to ask when you get confused and before you do anything. You then pick the answer you like the best!!
Welcome and enjoy, I have been keeping bees for over three decades now and loved every minute bar a couple which make good after dinner stories!
Good luck with your course
E
 
:welcome:
We all make mistakes..just try not to make too many of them.

No question is too stupid.. if in doubt : ask...

Just watch your wallet lighten - bee keeping is addictive.
 
My advice is take as much time as you feel you need..

There's no prize for how quickly you get your bees..

Only the potential of dead bees quicker!!

Get a mentor or a few people who will let you bee around their hives when they're opening them..

Seeing it in reality always helps the theory stick...

And only concentrate on each step ..don't look too far ahead!
 
Very little that you read or are told will make sense till you start the actual job. It’s a bit like reading a Haynes car manual before you look at the car.
Also, be warned. You’ll find that any three beekeepers on this forum will have five different answers to any problem you may ask about, and some will get passionate in advancing their view or refuting others.
 
Thanks for all the advice. I have done 2 of my course sessions and am still enthralled. I can't wait to get started. the Hands on stuff I have done so far has just added fuel to the smoker...
I need to look at the poly hives as they are cheaper and being this far north might be somewhat warmer? However, my wife thinks the garden should have WBC hives.
 
Mmmm. .yes I must admit being a female the pleasing to the eye thing is a bit of a bugger..

I've put up with my polynucs with a mishmash of landing boards bricks and other stuff but really can't wait until they go into my prettily painted nationals..

I've never worked with wbc but I believe they can be a bit of a faff if you are a beginner...my nationals have flat roofs on the advice of my old mentor...I totally get it now...

Far easier to lay down a flat roof in a hurry than having a peaked one upside down and flapping about...

Marriage however is about compromise or so they say.. maybe you could show her some lovely colour charts and offer to paint them the colours of her choice??!!.

When the wife's happy the bees will be also...

And no doubt you will be too!!
 
Hi, the secret is to ask when you get confused and before you do anything. You then pick the answer you like the best!!
Welcome and enjoy, I have been keeping bees for over three decades now and loved every minute bar a couple which make good after dinner stories!
Good luck with your course
E

very true :welcome:
 
Far easier to lay down a flat roof in a hurry than having a peaked one upside down and flapping about...

Hmmm, I think I'm probably one of those wives who prefers the look of the WBC. I've been campaining for a gabled roof to go on a National hive and have one that needs a bit of restoring. So is it worth the effort? Or should I embrace the flat roof and be satisfied. Thanks for raising this point!
 
I use flat roofs in winter as they are better insulated but switch to gabled in summer when we are in the garden as they are much more attractive.
I use the crown board and hive stands to put boxes on so don’t need a flat roof for that.


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Hi mike99, A warm welcome. Yes it will be exciting and a steep learning curve. I get the WBC for looks and I am the wife, so I try to hide my nationals behind greenery. If I could start again I would have grown a south facing hedge to place them behind. Do try to make a beekeeper out of your wife it helps when you make a mess in the kitchen! Good luck and enjoy.
 
I use flat roofs in winter as they are better insulated but switch to gabled in summer when we are in the garden as they are much more attractive.
I use the crown board and hive stands to put boxes on so don’t need a flat roof for that.


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I made gabled roofs out of insulation board.
 

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Thanks for all the replies. I have come to realise in a short time that the hive choice is personal as they seem to do more or less the same thing but with slight variations.
I have swayed towards the National in Cedar but would it be a bad thing to go for the pine ones? Obviously I am aware that I am going to part with a decent amount of cash to get going but would saving a few pounds on the wood type be worth it or just bite the bullet and get Cedar to start?
Does anyone have any recommendations for a site with reasonable hives? Watching the assembly of them on YouTube is somewhat daunting as I am terrible with a hammer and nails. I blame being left handed and having right handed hammers...:rolleyes:
 
Buying a full price hive from any of the suppliers is going to be expensive. And you will very quickly find you need more than one.

Most of the suppliers have good deals in sales, if you are prepared to wait. Often these boxes are "second quality" but I find they are fine.
Assembly isnt hard, and I speak as someone who couldnt bang a nail in straight when i started.
 
Go for cedar every time. They are lighter and need minimal maintenance. All mine have been flat pack in the January sales. Much cheaper. Only one side was not fit for purpose and was replaced without hassle. The assembly videos on one main sellers site are very good.
I make my own wood nucs, but am seriously considering buying full brood boxes and sawing them in half.
 

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