Green Wax

[Luminos]

Back to the green wax.
The boiler is not copper, it's galvanised

Then MasterBK has answered your question in post 9...

 

[pargyle]

Fixed that for you!

I think I'm a recessionary, senile, juvenile delinquent ! Or I would be if I could remember ...

 

[beekeeping4you]

My issue is that the wax I have recovered is a muddy green colour. I cut off a chunk and filtered it in stages finally through a paper towel; still green. Did I do something wrong? I used ordinary tap water in the burco boiler. I read about acidifying the water and/or using rain water, but too late. Is that what I did wrong?

It's not too late!
Melt / liquify the wax again and add 2 or 3 drops of concentrated sulfuric acid, stir and it will turn yellow in a few seconds.
I have seen that demonstrated as a part of a beekeeping course in Germany in 1988. They said that the reason for the discolouration is a chemical reaction through contact of the liquid wax with corroded iron parts of the melting equipment. He dipped a rusty nail into the wax and it turned back to the green colour, then added the sulfuric acid and it became yellow again!

Regards
Reiner
P.S.: We are talking about an amount of 10kg of filtered and settled wax from a steam melter here, impurities or propolis in the wax are a different thing.

 

[SixFooter]

Oy! I'm Victor Meldrew! Leave the belly aching to me thank you very much!
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Sorry. Bad day at the office.
Inane, lame, sarcastic (and aggressive) remarks are usual on all forums, it's just we used to have a better class of member on this one

 

[SixFooter]

It's not too late!
Melt / liquify the wax again and add 2 or 3 drops of concentrated sulfuric acid, stir and it will turn yellow in a few seconds.
I have seen that demonstrated as a part of a beekeeping course in Germany in 1988. They said that the reason for the discolouration is a chemical reaction through contact of the liquid wax with corroded iron parts of the melting equipment. He dipped a rusty nail into the wax and it turned back to the green colour, then added the sulfuric acid and it became yellow again!

Regards
Reiner
P.S.: We are talking about an amount of 10kg of filtered and settled wax from a steam melter here, impurities or propolis in the wax are a different thing.

Thanks.
Now this is interesting. I have ordered some battery acid. I'm guessing a little splurge very carefully added to hot wax will be exactly the same as a few drops of conc H2SO4. If not, I can always concentrate it

 

[itma]

I wondered about battery acid and concluded that conc had probably been deliberately chosen to minimise the amount of added water ...
Be interesting to hear how it goes.

 

[DanBee]

Erm, you could try and sell it as grafting wax...

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Or naturally coloured wax for ornamental candle making?

 

[DanBee]

Or naturally coloured wax for ornamental candle making?

Aye. So natural it's green...

 

[galileo]

Ahhhh! Whilst climbing a tree as a lad, back in 1974, I happened upon an old abandoned honeybee nest in a hollow trunk. I reached in and knocked the combs down, then gathered them up into a bag & headed home for gran's old burco. Next day, I had in my hand a block of clean wax, of the greenish hue described above. It made excellent polish and I still use it to this day.

Seeing those brilliantly designed and engineered old combs, is what started me off with beekeeping. Shortly after that, I made my first catenary hive & started chasing swarms banging saucepans.

 

[For want of a better word]

What colour will ARSENIC give?

 

[SixFooter]

It worked!

I melted the wax again and added a splurge of battery acid. When it cooled, all the green colour seemed to be concentrated into the scum/propolis at the bottom, leaving the wax a tan colour - not golden, but definitely not green.

Thanks Beekeeping4You