Framing queen excluders

[beebopper]

Bought some infrared Queen excluders in the sales. Went to Wickes to find some wood strips to frame them. Seemed quite expensive so was wondering what other people use for framing.

 

[Lancs Lad]

Bought some infrared Queen excluders in the sales. Went to Wickes to find some wood strips to frame them. Seemed quite expensive so was wondering what other people use for framing.

Go to your local builders or wood yard. Get the slats that are used for separating the planed wood usually loads lying about approx 7mm thick. I go to Jewsons or local wood yard.

 

[Millet]

I get 3inx2in lengths of timber given to me by a friend who is a joiner..I then cut it down to size with the table saw..not for queen excluders for crown boards but the same dimensions apply.

 

[enrico]

Go to your local builders or wood yard. Get the slats that are used for separating the planed wood usually loads lying about approx 7mm thick. I go to Jewsons or local wood yard.

Funny you should say that, they give them away free and I use them for so many things. They are just the right thickness for bee hive accessories!

 

[Michael Palmer]

Your excluder frames shouldn't be difficult. A rabbeted cut at corners and a saw kerf to hold the excluder. Pretty simple work on the table saw.

Something I made this winter. An old-timer, now long gone, gave me some old Root 7-wire excluders. As they were falling apart, I made new frames and slats. Came out nice.

https://www.frenchhillapiaries.com/shop-work/673vs1inzgeivy2hp4fvk8wjfj412m

 

[beebopper]

Go to your local builders or wood yard. Get the slats that are used for separating the planed wood usually loads lying about approx 7mm thick. I go to Jewsons or local wood yard.

Thanks - will try that.

 

[beebopper]

I get 3inx2in lengths of timber given to me by a friend who is a joiner..I then cut it down to size with the table saw..not for queen excluders for crown boards but the same dimensions apply.

It’s a shame I don’t know your friend.

 

[nantmoel]

Do you have a circular saw? If not its a pain in the bum to produce a rebate, it can be done by glueing two pieces of wood together to form a rebate. Then I used a half lap join on the corners, I used small brass screws to secure the excluded. I only made 10 as it was cheaper to buy them framed in the sales!

 

[blackcloud]

Amongst some clutter I have been given are two queen excluders
One is round wire and the other is stamped steel
The wire one is in a wooden frame and the steel one has a plain unstamped border all around
Ive measured the grid apertures and they both match the ones I have for my national.
But the overall size and shape is completley different from any hive system dimensions I can find.
I would like to make use of them if possible which would mean adapting the sizes with very wide wooden frames.
Am I 'allowed' to have these adapting frames encroaching inwards into the hive ?

 

[Murox]

Amongst some clutter I have been given are two queen excluders
One is round wire and the other is stamped steel
The wire one is in a wooden frame and the steel one has a plain unstamped border all around
Ive measured the grid apertures and they both match the ones I have for my national.
But the overall size and shape is completley different from any hive system dimensions I can find.
I would like to make use of them if possible which would mean adapting the sizes with very wide wooden frames.
Am I 'allowed' to have these adapting frames encroaching inwards into the hive ?

Make sure to maintain an appropriate bee space above the frames and your encroaching timber frame. (ie the total thickness of the frame work) You're 'allowed' to do what you want, the bees will glue up or build in spaces as they see fit. All you will be doing is making a sort of quasi crown board with a mesh instead of a hole.

 

[Millet]

Not too keen on those pressed steel excluders they sit on the top bars and have fairly rough edges that can only wear the bees wings away quicker than the wired excluders..i have a few laid about that will never be used on the hives.

 

[Curly green fingers]

Not too keen on those pressed steel excluders they sit on the top bars and have fairly rough edges that can only wear the bees wings away quicker than the wired excluders..i have a few laid about that will never be used on the hives.

And me if anyone wants them?
I've half a dozen free to a good home.

 

[Hivemaker.]

Not too keen on those pressed steel excluders

I like them, what I don't like are any of the plastic ones.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Not too keen on those pressed steel excluders they sit on the top bars and have fairly rough edges that can only wear the bees wings away.

Yet another beekeeping myth maintained over the years and repeated without evidence or research

 

[blackcloud]

Thanks
That's what I suspected but wanted to check first.
I've inherited an oddball hive too, so I am trying to use up the weird stuff on that and keep it a in one place
I have some more enquires on the subject but I'll post under.a better title

 

[Poly Hive]

The metal ones work fine and if you don't want them due to being misinformed then I'll happily pay the postage.

Yep the plastic ones have a pretty short working life some of mine are hmm.. 7 maybe 10 now and are starting to break.

PH

 

[Millet]

The metal ones work fine and if you don't want them due to being misinformed then I'll happily pay the postage.

Yep the plastic ones have a pretty short working life some of mine are hmm.. 7 maybe 10 now and are starting to break.

PH

I don't like them whether i am misinformed or not..they have no bee space and unless you smoke the bees out of the way many will be crushed with these cheap and nasty excluders..one side is smooth and the other is as rough as a cats tongue/Jenkies tongue ..i have two full ones left which you can certainly have.. i cut the other ones up to use for other more suitable jobs..